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Old 02-18-2009, 04:26 AM  
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Teicher: Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff

Chiefs’ Haley puts together coaching staff
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs now have a staff of assistants to work with new head coach Todd Haley. In keeping with their new policy of hiding as much information as possible, the Chiefs wouldn’t disclose the duties of their assistant coaches.

But they retained Chan Gailey, who presumably will continue as offensive coordinator, and three other assistants from the staff of former coach Herm Edwards: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris and Tim Krumrie.

Haley also hired seven new assistant coaches, including Gary Gibbs, the likely defensive coordinator. Gibbs, 56, spent the last three seasons as the defensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints.

The head coach at Oklahoma during 1989-94, Gibbs has also served as linebacker coach for the Dallas Cowboys.

The other new assistants:

•Joel Collier, who has 17 seasons of NFL coaching experience. Collier most recently was the secondary coach for New England during 2005-07.

•Steve Hoffman, a 19-year NFL coaching veteran. Hoffman spent 16 seasons as the kicking coach for the Cowboys before moving on to special teams duties with Miami and Atlanta.

•Bill Muir, a 31-year NFL coaching veteran. Muir most recently spent seven seasons as Tampa Bay’s offensive coordinator and line coach, though he didn’t call the plays.

•Clancy Pendergast, who was the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals for the last five years.

•Pat Perles, who has spent most of his coaching career in college other than two seasons with the Rams in the early 1990s. Perles spent the last four seasons as the offensive coordinator at North Dakota State and recently was hired as offensive line coach at Ball State.

•Dedric Ward, who played wide receiver for eight NFL seasons. He started his coaching career at Missouri State in 2006 and was an offensive assistant for the Cardinals for the last two years.

Judging from the backgrounds of the new coaches, one likely offensive scenario has Gailey joined on offense by Ward (wide receivers) and Bicknell (tight ends). Muir, Perles and D’Alessandris have backgrounds coaching the offensive line, so it’s unclear what their duties will be.

On defense, both Gibbs and Pendergast have been coordinators and coached linebackers. Krumrie will likely remain as the line coach while Collier could coach the secondary.

Hoffman would be the special teams coach.

Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith were also retained from Edwards’ former staff as strength and conditioning coaches.

Through the Chiefs, Haley refused an interview request to explain his decisions.

Haley’s staff
The returnees: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie.

The newcomers: Joel Collier, Gary Gibbs, Steve Hoffman, Bill Muir, Clancy Pendergast, Pat Perles, Dedric Ward.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:45 AM   #91
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:47 AM   #92
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:01 PM   #93
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Good god ladies, the fact is these hirings are riddled with question marks. And we're right to question them, they look awful and transparent on paper...and none of their moves outside of Pioli thus far feel deliberate. I'm not down on Haley yet, but even that just feels shaky. I'd much rather have had Ryan, but I'm willing to go with Haley, providing he doesn't surround himself with turds and/or friends who have no business being here.

We "blew up" the roster a couple years ago with Herm and Carl in a "rebuilding movement". Unfortunately, we're rebuilding again two years later, that's how piss-poor a job those two did. At least they added last year's draft, that was a good class and we made out well.

We're witnessing a new era in KC, I just hope that the first year of this era doesn't prove to be about a month late to the dance on some pretty important hires. Our coaching staff is going to play a HUGE role in our extremely young team, so again, we're right to question this potential nightmare.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:02 PM   #94
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:22 PM   #97
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Oh I see. Cut down Pioli and its intelligent discussion. Understand that Pioli knows what he's doing and its being a jackass

What a bunch of morons
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:26 PM   #98
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If the coordinators are not known at 1 Arrowhead Drive already then this whole hiring thing is bass-ackwards. You don't hire the assistants and then tell your new coordinator this is who you have to work with. You hire the coordinator and then at the very least give them a chance for serious input on who they wants to have working for them.
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But hey! This is probably "The Patriots Way", so who are we to wonder aloud. We should all just be quiet blind sheep, and drink the kool-aid.
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No there haven't been just questions. Chaos ass backwards etc etc. People are going off the deep end not with their questions but with their moronic assessments. Apparently they can dish it out pretty well but when its pointed out its baseless and a track record of the guy they are harpooning is brought up they can't take it
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No there haven't been just questions. Chaos ass backwards etc etc. People are going off the deep end not with their questions but with their moronic assessments. Apparently they can dish it out pretty well but when its pointed out its baseless and a track record of the guy they are harpooning is brought up they can't take it
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:53 PM   #103
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Sure. Nobody here has been critical of Pioli.

I love chiefs fans mocking the patriot way

Hmmmmmm
Patriot way - 3 super bowl championships and nearly 2 others

Chiefs way. - zero super bowls in 40 frickin years

But hey. What do the patriots know........
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:53 PM   #104
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THIS!

But hey! This is probably "The Patriots Way", so who are we to wonder aloud. We should all just be quiet blind sheep, and drink the kool-aid.
I don't care if people question decisions. I just think it's hilarious that people are so negative about coaches they know nothing about. Do these guys motivate players? Do players respond well to them? Do they teach good fundamentals? These are questions we know NOTHING about, and we choose to have a strong opinion anyway. That's especially true for positions coaches--how the **** do we know that a guy like Gary Gibbs isn't outstanding at teaching fundamentals. Have we seen him on the practice field actually teaching players? No. All we can judge these guys on is what we see on paper. That is exactly the problem. And worse, we're assuming because a guy like Pendergast couldn't call good plays that that means he can't coach players. We are blasting the GM for decisions because of some stats and numbers we looked up on Google. Are you serious? Haley and Pioli have worked closely with most of these guys. Don't we think they know just a little bit more about these guys than we do?

We don't know anything about these guys and yet we're willing to rip on the GM that brought him in. It's ridiculous. I'm not blindly supporting these guys. I'm just willing to give them at least an offseason before I start making judgments about them. Innocent before proven guilty.
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I don't care if people question decisions. I just think it's hilarious that people are so negative about coaches they know nothing about. Do these guys motivate players? Do players respond well to them? Do they teach good fundamentals? These are questions we know NOTHING about, and we choose to have a strong opinion anyway. That's especially true for positions coaches--how the **** do we know that a guy like Gary Gibbs isn't outstanding at teaching fundamentals. Have we seen him on the practice field actually teaching players? No. All we can judge these guys on is what we see on paper. That is exactly the problem. And worse, we're assuming because a guy like Pendergast couldn't call good plays that that means he can't coach players. We are blasting the GM for decisions because of some stats and numbers we looked up on Google. Are you serious? Haley and Pioli have worked closely with most of these guys. Don't we think they know just a little bit more about these guys than we do?

We don't know anything about these guys and yet we're willing to rip on the GM that brought him in. It's ridiculous. I'm not blindly supporting these guys. I'm just willing to give them at least an offseason before I start making judgments about them. Innocent before proven guilty.
The majority of all criticism has centered on Mr. Slappy.

I'd say we have somewhat of an idea about what he brings to the table.
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