NFL Draft Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? - Page 2

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-18-2009, 09:11 PM

Aaron Curry is a linebacker.

We are going to move to a 3-4.

Therefore, Aaron Curry can rush the passer.

It's really quite simple.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-18-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

LT was top 3 i believe? In rare cases, its justified. But yes, i see your point.

He went 5.
Sanders went 3.
Peterson went 7.
Ki-Jana Carter went 1.
Blair Thomas went 2.
Ronnie Brown went 2.
Cedric Benson went 4.
Cadillac Williams went 5.
Eric Dickerson went 2.
Walter Payton went 4.

Those are some of the uber high ones.

**dirk digler** · 02-18-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Would you like to make Aaron Curry the highest paid player in the NFL at his position when his position isn't all that important?

Don't you espouse picking the best available player? So what if Curry is the ranked the 3rd best player on the board do you abandon your position and trade down or draft someone else?

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Don't you espouse picking the best available player? So what if Curry is the ranked the 3rd best player on the board do you abandon your position and trade down or draft someone else?

He's not the best player on my board because see positional value factors in...hell I might think Chris Wells is great he's still a RB which means I'm not taking him in the top 10.

brandon · 02-18-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Would you like to make Aaron Curry the highest paid player in the NFL at his position when his position isn't all that important?

No, but Curry is consistently top 5 in most of the big boards I've seen so far.

If it's between a OT and Curry, I'm still taking Curry. We may be overpaying him, but I bet he'd have more of an immediate impact than an offensive linemen would(especially considering he'd probably play RT).

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brandon

No, but Curry is consistently top 5 in most of the big boards I've seen so far.

If it's between a OT and Curry, I'm still taking Curry. We may be overpaying him, but I bet he'd have more of an immediate impact than an offensive linemen would(especially considering he'd probably play RT).

That's a scenario of, so would you rather slice my dick off with a sword or a saw...taking either position at 3 would be awful.

evolve27 · 02-18-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To be a Top 5 LB, you better be a Singletary/Lewis clone in the middle, or a Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor type disruptive force on the outside.

Curry hasn't shown that he excels at either - but that he's a well rounded, athletic guy.

That makes him a 8-15 guy, IMO. Top 5 is ridiculous, and Top 3 is career suicide for a GM.

Yup. This.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-18-2009, 09:17 PM

People think it's just about BPA. It's not, and has never been. When you pick high, it's about BPA when taking into account positional value.

QB>LT,RDE>DT,WR,CB>everything else.

**dirk digler** · 02-18-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not the best player on my board because see positional value factors in...hell I might think Chris Wells is great he's still a RB which means I'm not taking him in the top 10.

Hypothetically what if he had DT type attributes? DT meaning Derrick Thomas

brandon · 02-18-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's a scenario of, so would you rather slice my dick off with a sword or a saw...taking either position at 3 would be awful.

But they are the positions that seem most viable at this point and time. You think drafting Sanchez is much better?

**dirk digler** · 02-18-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

People think it's just about BPA. It's not, and has never been. When you pick high, it's about BPA when taking into account positional value.

QB>LT,RDE>DT,WR,CB>everything else.

That makes sense but what if the player is such a god damn stud and he doesn't fit neatly in that little box.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-18-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Anyone catch the segment on NFL Network about LB's?

Another thing that struck me is there seems to be several LBs available this year, and not a ton of separation amongst some of the top ones...

Really, what's the difference between Curry and someone that would slip to our Rd 2 pick?

Not much.

I don't see enough of a difference between Curry and a guy like Cushing.

brandon · 02-18-2009, 09:22 PM

Wait... I just figured it out.

We're going to take a page out of the Vikings playbook and let our draft timer run out to get better contract leverage. I bet we settle on Curry at 7.

Deberg_1990 · 02-18-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He went 5.
Sanders went 3.
Peterson went 7.
Ki-Jana Carter went 1.
Blair Thomas went 2.
Ronnie Brown went 2.
Cedric Benson went 4.
Cadillac Williams went 5.
Eric Dickerson went 2.
Walter Payton went 4.

Those are some of the uber high ones.

So only Sanders, Peterson, LT, DIckerson and Payton justified their draft status.

About half. Thats about the average of any draft position.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brandon

But they are the positions that seem most viable at this point and time. You think drafting Sanchez is much better?

Yes I think that is much better.

02-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-742950	Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career... Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position. Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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02-18-2009, 09:11 PM	#16
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Aaron Curry is a linebacker. We are going to move to a 3-4. Therefore, Aaron Curry can rush the passer. It's really quite simple. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	People think it's just about BPA. It's not, and has never been. When you pick high, it's about BPA when taking into account positional value. QB>LT,RDE>DT,WR,CB>everything else. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-18-2009, 09:22 PM	#28
brandon Starter Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Wait... I just figured it out. We're going to take a page out of the Vikings playbook and let our draft timer run out to get better contract leverage. I bet we settle on Curry at 7.
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