NFL Draft Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? - Page 16

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Because he makes plays all over the field. I've watched enough video of Curry at this point to see that he is much more then a "coverage backer". The guy is great at shedding blocks and then making the play along with his coverage skills. I understand wanting a QB but you're undervaluing Curry to make your argument. Besides here on chiefs planet every body with a draft board has Curry in the top five. Here he's just another "coverage backer". And don't forget guys I want a franchise QB too.

PhilFree

Now address my point, Ernie Sims drafted 10th overall is a borderline pro bowl backer with more natural gifts than Curry has, what difference is he making for the Lions?

That should answer the question about taking a non pass rushing LB this high.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-18-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Because he makes plays all over the field. I've watched enough video of Curry at this point to see that he is much more then a "coverage backer". The guy is great at shedding blocks and then making the play along with his coverage skills. I understand wanting a QB but you're undervaluing Curry to make your argument. Besides here on chiefs planet every body with a draft board has Curry in the top five. Here he's just another "coverage backer". And don't forget guys I want a franchise QB too.

PhilFree

So, a guy that makes a bunch of plays in the ACC is suddenly worth the #3 overall pick?

Huh?

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea just like Matt Ryan didn't mean shit to the Falcons either right?

You know that argument would be awesome if it had merit I just made the point that even if Curry is good it will mean nothing so you point out some busts and go look they mean nothing not in factoring in what happens when the QB's are good..

Ponder that point you just made then get back to me if your brain doesn't explode.

No one player is going to put the Chiefs over the hump. Do you understand that? Curry alone isn't going to do it. Sanchez alone isn't going to do it.

I have nothing against Sanchez. I think if he sits a year he'll develop into a good QB. I think he has a good chance of being better than Stafford. But your constant hype of the guy and finger in the ears attitude about every other prospect is ridiculous and makes a part of me hope that Sanchez becomes a bust and you end up hanging yourself in your moms basement in despair.

**dirk digler** · 02-18-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No, actually that isn't what we need.

We need a QB that will be ready to lead this team when we are ready to compete.

We aren't going to be that team next year.

And whether it's Stafford or Sanchez, I think both could use some time on the sideline to develop.

However, if they had to start day one, I think Sanchez is more mature and could handle the adversity better.

Just my opinion but if you draft a QB in the Top 5 you are basically wanting them to be the starter on opening day or very, very soon after.

When was the last time a team drafted a QB in the Top 5 and let them sit for a year? That would be an interesting bit of information.

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Smith was a poor choice. He played in Urban Meyer's spread offense and was not prepared to play behind center in a pro-style offense.

As usual, bad example, Mel.

They're completely missing my entire point.....either they lack comprehension or they are avoiding it because there is no answer for it.

keg in kc · 02-18-2009, 11:09 PM

I'm look at that completely differently, I think quarterbacks need to be worked in, even high picks. You're drafting a franchise quarterback with an eye more on what you expect him to be 3 or 4 years down the road, and then for a decade after that. You don't throw him in there like tossing a kid into the deep end of a pool. You don't coddle him either, but you do let him grow into the role. Some will be ready to go right off the bat (Ryan), some won't (Rivers).

**DeezNutz** · 02-18-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Just my opinion but if you draft a QB in the Top 5 you are basically wanting them to be the starter on opening day or very, very soon after.

When was the last time a team drafted a QB in the Top 5 and let them sit for a year? That would be an interesting bit of information.

Carson Palmer.

That worked out shitty.

**doomy3** · 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Now address my point, Ernie Sims drafted 10th overall is a borderline pro bowl backer with more natural gifts than Curry has, what difference is he making for the Lions?

That should answer the question about taking a non pass rushing LB this high.

What difference is Calvin Johnson making for the Lions? What difference did Joey Harrington make for the Lions? What difference did Barry Sanders make for the Lions?

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

No one player is going to put the Chiefs over the hump. Do you understand that? Curry alone isn't going to do it. Sanchez alone isn't going to do it.

I have nothing against Sanchez. I think if he sits a year he'll develop into a good QB. I think he has a good chance of being better than Stafford. But your constant hype of the guy and finger in the ears attitude about every other prospect is ridiculous and makes a part of me hope that Sanchez becomes a bust and you end up hanging yourself in your moms basement in despair.

Oh cool another moms basement joke, I love how people say that when they got nothing better to say, like they think they know me and can make up some universe.

Maybe if we get the player you want you can suck your dads penis.

ChiefsCountry · 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM

Phillip Rivers is another one.

The Buddha · 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Just my opinion but if you draft a QB in the Top 5 you are basically wanting them to be the starter on opening day or very, very soon after.

When was the last time a team drafted a QB in the Top 5 and let them sit for a year? That would be an interesting bit of information.

Philip Rivers... I'm sure there's more.

But you're right. If your qb has such a fragile ego that he can't jump right in (and fail miserably, lol), then something is up.

**DeezNutz** · 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Now address my point, Ernie Sims drafted 10th overall is a borderline pro bowl backer with more natural gifts than Curry has, what difference is he making for the Lions?

That should answer the question about taking a non pass rushing LB this high.

In all fairness, I think guys like Sims and Willis make a hell of a difference.

Still, that doesn't mean they're top 5 picks.

But I'd like to have one on my team. Anyone would.

We're talking draft value, though, and this is like pissing in the wind.

rad · 02-18-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

IMHO if you are going to draft a QB that high you have to play them.

Opinions are like assholes.

In your case, it looks like your hemorrhoids are hanging out

**notorious** · 02-18-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Derrick Anderson is actually like a Freeman model.

Looks great getting off the bus. Anderson is a little taller (1") and Freeman's heavier, 250 or so compared to Anderson's 230.

Your comparison is better. Well done.

I do see a little Anderson in Stafford. Stafford did get screwed by his receivers running bad or incorrect routes and his line giving him Jordan Black time to throw the ball.

He has had to overcome adversity time and time again without changing his playing style. ALL of the great ones have this quality to pull the trigger no matter how the game was going before.

Chiefnj2 · 02-18-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Maybe if we get the player you want you can suck your dads penis.

All of a sudden your willing to share?

02-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career... Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position. Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'm look at that completely differently, I think quarterbacks need to be worked in, even high picks. You're drafting a franchise quarterback with an eye more on what you expect him to be 3 or 4 years down the road, and then for a decade after that. You don't throw him in there like tossing a kid into the deep end of a pool. You don't coddle him either, but you do let him grow into the role. Some will be ready to go right off the bat (Ryan), some won't (Rivers).
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