NFL Draft Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? - Page 40

Mecca · 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

orange · 02-19-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you really think throwing a deep ball is a reflection of arm strength stop now you don't know what you're talking about.

Why is Leinart a failure?

Why would you take Jenkins at #3?

What about these draft sites that question Sanchez' arm strength?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-19-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Why is Leinart a failure?

Why would you take Jenkins at #3?

What about these draft sites that question Sanchez' arm strength?

Leinart's NOT a failure.

He was drafted to play in a different scheme. He's an accurate passer best suited for the WCO.

He'll be a successful QB somewhere.

melbar · 02-19-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow. 32 pages and no one has convincingly answered the question:

What makes Curry worth the #3 overall pick?

Again,

4yr starter never missed due to injury

over 100 tackles last year

Hard hitter and sure tackler

great against the run

4 int's all returned for TD's over 40 yards in 07

16 tackles behind the line last year

comfortable in space makes plays in coverage

Butkis award winner and team leader

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So tell me why you wouldnt want him? Sacks?
What makes Jenkins better?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-19-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Again,

4yr starter never missed due to injury

over 100 tackles last year

Hard hitter and sure tackler

great against the run

4 int's all returned for TD's over 40 yards in 07

16 tackles behind the line last year

comfortable in space makes plays in coverage

Butkis award winner and team leader

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So tell me why you wouldnt want him? Sacks?
What makes Jenkins better?

He played in the ACC. Not the SEC or the Big 10 or the Big 12 or the Pac-10. The ACC.

Linebackers don't go high in the draft unless they're Derrick Thomas/Lawrence Taylor type of players because solid linebackers can be found throughout the entire draft, without wasting a highly valued pick.

Jenkins is a better choice because finding a good CB in the later rounds is far more difficult than finding a solid linebacker in the later rounds. Plus, the CB position is a premium due to the athleticism required to play on an "island".

I will be curious about Jenkins speed at the Combines. It could solidify his position or he could drop because of it.

ChiefsCountry · 02-19-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Again,

4yr starter never missed due to injury

over 100 tackles last year

Hard hitter and sure tackler

great against the run

4 int's all returned for TD's over 40 yards in 07

16 tackles behind the line last year

comfortable in space makes plays in coverage

Butkis award winner and team leader

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So tell me why you wouldnt want him? Sacks?
What makes Jenkins better?

A coverage linebacker is NOT WORTH THE FREAKING #3 PICK IN THE DRAFT. Jeez, get over this.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-19-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

A coverage linebacker is NOT WORTH THE FREAKING #3 PICK IN THE DRAFT. Jeez, get over this.

He doesn't believe that and keep refuting the fact that an inside linebacker doesn't have the same value as a pass rusher.

Mecca · 02-19-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He doesn't believe that and keep refuting the fact that an inside linebacker doesn't have the same value as a pass rusher.

Chiefs fans RT's and cover backs are worth top 5 picks!

melbar · 02-19-2009, 09:53 PM

CB's arent taken in the top 5 very regularly either.

So pass rushing is all that matters? So Orakpo is next in line? Theres a lot more to playing LB than chasing the QB all day. A LB isnt a RT. You wanted a reasonable argument and I gave it. You have yet to give anything outside of LB isnt a valuable position. BS. Jenkins is a good player. He better run well at the combine or he becomes a safety. Curry is almost universally viewed as a top 3 talent in this draft. He has an excellent skill set most of which are things totally lacking on the Chiefs. Thing is I'm not even saying He's the guy I want, but the assertion that he isnt worthy of a top 5 pick just because you have a man crush on another guy is just wrong. We can have a reasonable discussion, or you can run home to the same arguments without support and drop a few condiscending jabs my way. Just about every football expert in the country has this kid as a top 5 elite prospect and the best of a very strong LB class. If you think Pass rushing is all that LB's do on a football team then you dont know half what you claim to about football.

melbar · 02-19-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

A coverage linebacker is NOT WORTH THE FREAKING #3 PICK IN THE DRAFT. Jeez, get over this.

great point...you proved your argument there...

kcchiefsus · 02-19-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

great point...you proved your argument there...

Then go back and look at recent history in the draft. Very few linebackers go in the top 5 and very few of those that do live up to their draft status.

keg in kc · 02-19-2009, 11:08 PM

Curry is Derrick Johnson in a Wake Forest uniform, basically.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-19-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Curry is Derrick Johnson in a Wake Forest uniform, basically.

And that is lame

keg in kc · 02-19-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And that is lame

And people say Sanchez is the beneficiary of a weak top of the draft class...

CanadaKC · 02-19-2009, 11:19 PM

I love it when you so called draft geeks here continually trash Curry and pimp Sanchez....you'll believe anything the other is saying about Curry....and then you put your blinders up to what kind of guy Pioli is..and his reputation for drafting a QB in the latter rounds...that fact has been virtually ignored....and you still think Sanchez is going #3...wow...Curry's the man...he ain't no Derrick Johnson...nice try....he's the best defensive player in the draft.

Mecca · 02-19-2009, 11:21 PM

That's better than the people who've seen 5 seconds of Curry sucking him off...lets be frank a good portion of this forum doesn't watch any college football other than their teams and don't know shit about these guys other than what they heard.

And that Pioli thing is stupid, he had Bledsoe when he got hired there his team has never had a pressing need at QB.

02-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick? Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career... Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position. Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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02-19-2009, 09:53 PM	#593
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	CB's arent taken in the top 5 very regularly either. So pass rushing is all that matters? So Orakpo is next in line? Theres a lot more to playing LB than chasing the QB all day. A LB isnt a RT. You wanted a reasonable argument and I gave it. You have yet to give anything outside of LB isnt a valuable position. BS. Jenkins is a good player. He better run well at the combine or he becomes a safety. Curry is almost universally viewed as a top 3 talent in this draft. He has an excellent skill set most of which are things totally lacking on the Chiefs. Thing is I'm not even saying He's the guy I want, but the assertion that he isnt worthy of a top 5 pick just because you have a man crush on another guy is just wrong. We can have a reasonable discussion, or you can run home to the same arguments without support and drop a few condiscending jabs my way. Just about every football expert in the country has this kid as a top 5 elite prospect and the best of a very strong LB class. If you think Pass rushing is all that LB's do on a football team then you dont know half what you claim to about football. __________________
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02-19-2009, 11:08 PM	#596
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Curry is Derrick Johnson in a Wake Forest uniform, basically.
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02-19-2009, 11:19 PM	#599
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $5948668	I love it when you so called draft geeks here continually trash Curry and pimp Sanchez....you'll believe anything the other is saying about Curry....and then you put your blinders up to what kind of guy Pioli is..and his reputation for drafting a QB in the latter rounds...that fact has been virtually ignored....and you still think Sanchez is going #3...wow...Curry's the man...he ain't no Derrick Johnson...nice try....he's the best defensive player in the draft.
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02-19-2009, 11:21 PM	#600
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	That's better than the people who've seen 5 seconds of Curry sucking him off...lets be frank a good portion of this forum doesn't watch any college football other than their teams and don't know shit about these guys other than what they heard. And that Pioli thing is stupid, he had Bledsoe when he got hired there his team has never had a pressing need at QB.
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