NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 10

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

Pioli Zombie · 02-21-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Drew Bledsoe must have sodomized this guy that's all I can think.

Another words you got caught saying something stupid and this is your only response. I'm still waiting to hear more why sanchez should be the qb because his brother went to Yale. That was. Classic
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**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Well, then you are calling mecca unelievably stupid because he said that. When describing the sainted sanchez the terms big and strong armed were used. I compared that to what they used to say about bledsoe and mecca said hed be happy to be able to get a qb as good as bledsoe with the third pick since the words franchise qb are being used to describe stafford and sanchez and the need out of any qb the chiefs may draft to be a "franchise qb" then mecca feels bledsoe fits this model

The draft is "his thing". Then he's got the nerve to call others morons.
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Being happy with a selection is hardly the same as saying a player "is the model of what you hope a franchise QB to be."

I shouldn't have to state this.

Stafford, for example, could be Elway II. There is a better chance, however, that he won't, and if he develops into a multiple Pro Bowler and a two time All Pro, I'd say this more than justifies the pick.

And most fans should be "happy" about the selection.

Pioli Zombie · 02-21-2009, 06:11 PM

If you draft a guy thinking he's a franchise player, an elway, a manning, an Aikman, and he turns into a Bledsoe, believe me, a fanbase is not happy with that.

If PIoli thinks stafford is an elway he will and should pick him. If he feels he's getting Bledsoe I doubt he will.
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-21-2009, 06:13 PM

I ****ing love dipshit true fans.

They offer dumbass takes like "We should take Crabtree or Curry at 3" or "We should trade down and take Sanchez at 10" when the only teams willing to trade up with us would be the very teams that would take Sanchez.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-21-2009, 06:14 PM

Between Just Fisting Myself and Pioli Fluffer, the amount of reerunation is growing at a geometric rate.

**SAUTO** · 02-21-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I ****ing love dipshit true fans.

They offer dumbass takes like "We should take Crabtree or Curry at 3" or "We should trade down and take Sanchez at 10" when the only teams willing to trade up with us would be the very teams that would take Sanchez.

i always laugh when someone says that. should be obvious

ChiefsCountry · 02-21-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Between Just Fisting Myself and Pioli Fluffer, the amount of reerunation is growing at a geometric rate.

I think they are reeruned Patriot trolls.

Pioli Zombie · 02-21-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Between Just Fisting Myself and Pioli Fluffer, the amount of reerunation is growing at a geometric rate.

I know. There's someone with a contrary opinion than mine. I will call them a reerun. Ooooh I showed them

Its nice to hear from you again mr jenkins. No go call your grandfather, he said you left your condom up his ass last night.
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-21-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

I know. There's someone with a contrary opinion than mine. I will call them a reerun. Ooooh I showed them

Its nice to hear from you again mr jenkins. No go call your grandfather, he said you left your condom up his ass last night.
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I see these posts from you, but all I can decipher is " I will follow the Lord my Pioli to the ends of Eternity. I shall not think for myself. He leadeth me beside still garbage disposals. He flipeth the switch, and I **** them."

**SAUTO** · 02-21-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I see these posts from you, but all I can decipher is " I will follow the Lord my Pioli to the ends of Eternity. I shall not think for myself. He leadeth me beside still garbage disposals. He flipeth the switch, and I **** them."

how the **** do you come up with this shit?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-21-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

how the **** do you come up with this shit?

Most likely gross chemical imbalances and electrical disturbances in the brain.

**SAUTO** · 02-21-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Most likely gross chemical imbalances and electrical disturbances in the brain.

**DeezNutz** · 02-21-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Most likely gross chemical imbalances and electrical disturbances in the brain.

That's what happens when one leaves condoms up asses, unfortunately.

Luckily, I've always preferred to roll slick pickle.

I'd recommend this approach.

Pioli Zombie · 02-21-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I see these posts from you, but all I can decipher is " I will follow the Lord my Pioli to the ends of Eternity. I shall not think for myself. He leadeth me beside still garbage disposals. He flipeth the switch, and I **** them."

Apparently you don't read the posts.

But if you want to act like a ****head then go right ahead.
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**SAUTO** · 02-21-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That's what happens when one leaves condoms up asses, unfortunately.

Luckily, I've always preferred to roll slick pickle.

I'd recommend this approach.

i agree, but slick pickle?

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	If you draft a guy thinking he's a franchise player, an elway, a manning, an Aikman, and he turns into a Bledsoe, believe me, a fanbase is not happy with that. If PIoli thinks stafford is an elway he will and should pick him. If he feels he's getting Bledsoe I doubt he will. Posted via Mobile Device
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	I ****ing love dipshit true fans. They offer dumbass takes like "We should take Crabtree or Curry at 3" or "We should trade down and take Sanchez at 10" when the only teams willing to trade up with us would be the very teams that would take Sanchez. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-21-2009, 06:14 PM	#140
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Between Just Fisting Myself and Pioli Fluffer, the amount of reerunation is growing at a geometric rate. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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