NFL Draft QB, RB, and WR Day at the combine - Page 11

Coogs · 02-22-2009, 09:54 AM

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**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Do you want a QB that excels in game situations or practice?

Obviously game situations. It's just too bad that we only have 16 of those, many against poor talent, to judge him on. It would have been nice to see him stand out in these drills.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

Ooookay. Just trying to set the record straight. Lighten up, Francis...

I'm not the ones saying that he's going to free fall or that he sucks because he was missing throws in shorts to guys he's never played with.

It was a poor performance, undoubtedly, but if anyone thinks that it will matter one bit to any scout, they are absolutely delusional.

Those drills are primarily designed for the WRs. That's why they call it a "route tree".

Pablo · 02-22-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Ok then.

He's a bust.

Nobody said that.

I'm objectively commenting on the throws he makes, and I wish he'd make better throws because I'd like a franchise QB.

Relax.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Do you want a QB that excels in game situations or practice?

All I hear about his how 'talented' the kid is. He didn't show that today. Against air, and in shorts, the 'pressure' was too much for him. He missed throws high and low and looked tight.

Oh, and I didn't see this 'strong arm' that everyone talks about. He came in with some question as to his arm strength.... I think those questions still remain.

eazyb81 · 02-22-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Obviously game situations. It's just too bad that we only have 16 of those, many against poor talent, to judge him on. It would have been nice to see him stand out in these drills.

If 16 games don't provide a large enough sample size for you to judge him on, why are you getting worked up over a few passes in a non-game situation today? Don't you think that is irrational?

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I just don't think he is ready. I think he is immature. He didn't listen to his coach or his parents about going back to school. I wonder how well he will take coaching.

I'm not going to argue that he didn't hurt his draft stock with his combine showing.
He may very well have, and may go into a free fall in the draft, unles he relly impresses at his pro day.

However, having watched all his games, I saw a mature kid with outstanding pocket presense.

He looked like a natural leader.

If you think he lacks maturity, then you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Actually, you have a bunch of guys that are trying to justify Sanchez as the #3 pick.

There is NO ONE that would say that he did a good job in those drills. I think he needed to do better.

He certainly isn't doing much to win over his critics.

Would you draft Pat White to be your franchise QB? Because he just had a great vertical, the fastest 40 of any QB, and did a better job throwing than anyone.

Combine for WRs and RB=paramount

The only part of the combine that matters for QBs are interviews and the Wonderlic.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Oh, and I didn't see this 'strong arm' that everyone talks about. He came in with some question as to his arm strength.... I think those questions still remain.

Show me a scouting report that questions his arm strength.

Shag · 02-22-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not the ones saying that he's going to free fall or that he sucks because he was missing throws in shorts to guys he's never played with.

It was a poor performance, undoubtedly, but if anyone thinks that it will matter one bit to any scout, they are absolutely delusional.

Those drills are primarily designed for the WRs. That's why they call it a "route tree".

I'm not the one saying that, either...

Pablo · 02-22-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The only part of the combine that matters for QBs are interviews and the Wonderlic.

Flacco managed to elevate his status with great throwing sessions last year though.

It still is important.

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

If 16 games don't provide a large enough sample size for you to judge him on, why are you getting worked up over a few passes in a non-game situation today? Don't you think that is irrational?

I'm not worked up at all. And if anything, those 16 games didn't solidify him as a top 3 pick, IMO. And he didn't do anything at the combine to change that. If this is just trash, then why bother with it? I'm sure if he would have made all of his throws, the same people on here saying it doesn't matter would be on here telling others about how great he looked.

Hell, earlier in this thread a jab was taken at people because a "source" said Stafford looked good on the chalkboard. I don't think the absurdity is just coming from one direction here.

eazyb81 · 02-22-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

All I hear about his how 'talented' the kid is. He didn't show that today. Against air, and in shorts, the 'pressure' was too much for him. He missed throws high and low and looked tight.

Oh, and I didn't see this 'strong arm' that everyone talks about. He came in with some question as to his arm strength.... I think those questions still remain.

???

The "pressure" got to him? What pressure? He wasn't in pads, he didn't have 300 lb linemen trying to rip his head off, it wasn't the 4th quarter of a game.....if anything, it shows he doesn't do well in awkward, non-game situations, and even that is a HUGE reach considering everyone is making conclusions based on one day of practice.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Nobody said that.

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

sanchez blows

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not the ones saying that he's going to free fall or that he sucks because he was missing throws in shorts to guys he's never played with.

It was a poor performance, undoubtedly, but if anyone thinks that it will matter one bit to any scout, they are absolutely delusional.

Those drills are primarily designed for the WRs. That's why they call it a "route tree".

LOL. No, the combine doesn't matter at all. Oh, and of course these drills only matter for the WR's.

But, it is just amazing.... how this guys physical abilty would do nothing but help him... only it didn't.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:20 PM

Mayock just showed some highlights and talked about Sanchez's accuracy and arm strength.

But this workout just showed he lacks both.

he should go in the 5th round.

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