Chiefs Underclassmen QB's in the draft. - Page 5

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 02:09 PM

Okay, I know that Leaf was a junior. Probably the worst. Showed very quickly that he was not mature enough to make it in the NFL.

Mike Vick came out as a Junior, but again, lacked maturity.

Vince Young was a junior, and has had a mental breakdown.

Aaron Rodgers was a junior, but he was taken later in the first round.

Flacco and Ryan, last year's wonder rookies.... were both seniors.

I see a lot of red flags from Sancez. He was arrested for sexual assault. (I know, this girl was just out for money.... only he was a couple years removed from going pro, and there was no way for her to profit from it at the time, and her mother was the one who called the police)

He only has 16 games of experience and didn't listen to Pete Carroll or his parents that all advised him to go back to school.

He then hires his brother.

So, my question is, has anyone come into the NFL as a junior as a top ten pick that came in and set the NFL on fire?

I mean, Aaron Rodgers was on the bench for three years prior to the Packers leaning on him as there starter.

Do we want a three year waiting period for our QBOTF?

Anyways, I think QB has to be the most level headed and mature position on the field. I see none of that in Sanchez.

In fact, all I see is an arrogant primadonna that isn't smart enough to know what he doesn't know.

There is probably a junior I am misisng. I would love it even more if there is a junior that has on 16 games starting experience and came in as a top pick and set the world on fire.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Is there some new magic pressure that goes with being the #3 overall pick as opposed to the #10?

Did Roethlisberger take the field, at any time, breathing a large sigh of relief that he didn't have to bear that enormous top 5 risk?

I'm sure the fanbase would have been very forgiving because, hey, he was just a shitty #10 overall pick, not a "top 5."

Actually, Ben was drafted 11th. And, the team around Ben was better than the team around the Chiefs. He didn't have to be the 'savior'. There is a different mentality there.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Actually, Ben was drafted 11th. And, the team around Ben was better than the team around the Chiefs. He didn't have to be the 'savior'. There is a different mentality there.

Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.

But your true argument is starting to reveal itself.

Build the rest of the team first, and then add the QB, right?

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Look how shitty that Ryan Simms pick was...

he was a very safe pick...

No, he was a pick that looked better due to the talent around him.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.

If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.

By dumbshit fans.

Just Passin' By · 02-22-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Then we dissagree. And, that is fine. I don't think you pay a QB huge money to ride the bench for two years in the hopes that someday he gets it.

At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.

You are the only dumb**** who thinks that these guys have to be saviors.

Hell with this fan base, the pick could easily be considered anything but a savior.

ChiefsCountry · 02-22-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.

Palmer as well.

Reerun_KC · 02-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.

yet people want someone like Curry to come in and save the defense...

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

By dumbshit fans.

This.

The problem is that there are a lot of these in the QB or bust crowd. It is a serious misconception to think that the only dumbshit fans are the ones who don't like one of these guys.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.

But your true argument is starting to reveal itself.

Build the rest of the team first, and then add the QB, right?

No, actually, my true argument is that you need to pick a good player at #3, not a QB just because we all want a franchise QB.

I think Stafford would be a good pick, but I don't think he will be there. Even he is a Junior, but he has a ton of experience and has all the physical tools.

I know you want to pigeon hole anyone who dares think Sanchez might be a reach, but don't put words in my mouth.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

By dumbshit fans.

The dumbshits might say that as the #3 overall, that he better be the savior, but they're the same fans that will throw their hands up and rail against management and decide to skip games because he was selected.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Anyone who thinks Aaron Curry is worth the third pick is a dumbshit.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The dumbshits might say that as the #3 overall, that he better be the savior, but they're the same fans that will throw their hands up and rail against management and decide to skip games because he was selected.

Exactly.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.

McNair was a decade ago. Rivers was a unique situation because Brees bounced back and Marty prefers veterans.

Heck, when Brees left, Marty still wanted him instead.

It isn't the 'plan' to have these guys ride the bench a year these days.

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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Underclassmen QB's in the draft. Okay, I know that Leaf was a junior. Probably the worst. Showed very quickly that he was not mature enough to make it in the NFL. Mike Vick came out as a Junior, but again, lacked maturity. Vince Young was a junior, and has had a mental breakdown. Aaron Rodgers was a junior, but he was taken later in the first round. Flacco and Ryan, last year's wonder rookies.... were both seniors. I see a lot of red flags from Sancez. He was arrested for sexual assault. (I know, this girl was just out for money.... only he was a couple years removed from going pro, and there was no way for her to profit from it at the time, and her mother was the one who called the police) He only has 16 games of experience and didn't listen to Pete Carroll or his parents that all advised him to go back to school. He then hires his brother. So, my question is, has anyone come into the NFL as a junior as a top ten pick that came in and set the NFL on fire? I mean, Aaron Rodgers was on the bench for three years prior to the Packers leaning on him as there starter. Do we want a three year waiting period for our QBOTF? Anyways, I think QB has to be the most level headed and mature position on the field. I see none of that in Sanchez. In fact, all I see is an arrogant primadonna that isn't smart enough to know what he doesn't know. There is probably a junior I am misisng. I would love it even more if there is a junior that has on 16 games starting experience and came in as a top pick and set the world on fire.
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