Clayton: Confident Sanchez has solid showing - Page 6

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I still didn't think his arm strength came off as poorly as same are making it out to be, it wasn't like he was Chad Pennington out there, his arm looked league average to me in todays workout.

I'd say he has an above average arm and needs to show that, he's probably already been told that 100 times by people coaching him.

He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

BleedRed · 02-22-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

Personally, I think you are a bit stuck on the deep balls he threw. I wouldn't get so caught up in that. There are a lot of good NFL QB's that throw soft deep balls.

Arm strength really is more important on the 15+ yard deep out routes and digs. And I think he showed he is capable of making those throws.

Besides, if he was that horribly inaccurate and weak armed, would he really have been as good as he was at USC this year? The guys on NFL T.V. said it best, the tape doesn't lie. You simply cannot judge anyone by a few throws at a combine with players he's never worked with. I mean, why is it said year after year in preseason how important it is for a QB and WR to establish timing?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.

They absolutely were not. If you wanted to see bad throws from the QBs on the deep balls, look at what Painter and Reilly did.

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Neither one of those 9 routes were in stride from Sanchez, but they were good misses.

Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:

Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.

Idiot.

#1 I never said they were perfect throws. A perfect throw is to the outside shoulder in stride. I said no one hid them in stride.

If you underthrow a 9 by a half step, the receiver sees it and either gets run into (for a PI) or makes the catch, because it's nigh impossible for a CB running stride for stride to make that adjustment after the receiver has done it.

Hence the prevalence of the fade stop.

BleedRed · 02-22-2009, 11:17 PM

When I watched Sanchez throw today I watched his feet and his release first. His five and seven step drops looks fluid to me. He had good spacing between his steps and didn't seem to stutter or take a few long or short steps. And he held the ball at a good height, right under his chin. Compared to some other guys that threw the ball, like that kid from 'Bama Gruden was jerking off, Sanchez looked poised in his drop back. As absurd as that sounds.

As for his arm strength, I thought he threw the ball well on the out routes and the post corner. The first deep throw he made had a lot of air under it, but I honestly think that had more to do with him floating it up there for the receiver to run under than anything else. And I say that because more than half of the receivers running routes rounded off on the second cone and its hard for a QB that has no timing with said WR to know where he is going to make his break and then place the ball accordingly.

KCwolf · 02-22-2009, 11:22 PM

I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

Reerun_KC · 02-22-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf

I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

So what do you suggest?

Mecca · 02-22-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So what do you suggest?

Take the safe player we gotta be worried about right now win 6 games!

KCwolf · 02-22-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Take the safe player we gotta be worried about right now win 6 games!

Please Be honest.....U believe Sanchez is worth the 3rd pick in the draft? Because he is a QB? Or because his talent? Really? Not being a dick....but what U R seeing.....watched Sanchez get his cock stomped in Eugene and then watched his UNBELIEVABLE performance in the ROSE Bowl.....but REALLY 16 starts and ready to call him READY??????? Just scared I guess......

ChiefRon · 02-22-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf

Please Be honest.....U believe Sanchez is worth the 3rd pick in the draft? Because he is a QB? Or because his talent? Really? Not being a dick....but what U R seeing.....watched Sanchez get his cock stomped in Eugene and then watched his UNBELIEVABLE performance in the ROSE Bowl.....but REALLY 16 starts and ready to call him READY??????? Just scared I guess......

Please be honest, who ya got at QB next year?

Reerun_KC · 02-22-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf

Please Be honest.....U believe Sanchez is worth the 3rd pick in the draft? Because he is a QB? Or because his talent? Really? Not being a dick....but what U R seeing.....watched Sanchez get his cock stomped in Eugene and then watched his UNBELIEVABLE performance in the ROSE Bowl.....but REALLY 16 starts and ready to call him READY??????? Just scared I guess......

20 years of Carl Peterson will do that to you...

Just relax, we never won shit drafting scared and regardless of what people say, you can win a championship by drafting and developing QB's in the 1st round...

**the Talking Can** · 02-22-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCwolf

I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

take that nonsense back to WPI where it belongs....

02-22-2009, 11:17 PM	#8
BleedRed Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	When I watched Sanchez throw today I watched his feet and his release first. His five and seven step drops looks fluid to me. He had good spacing between his steps and didn't seem to stutter or take a few long or short steps. And he held the ball at a good height, right under his chin. Compared to some other guys that threw the ball, like that kid from 'Bama Gruden was jerking off, Sanchez looked poised in his drop back. As absurd as that sounds. As for his arm strength, I thought he threw the ball well on the out routes and the post corner. The first deep throw he made had a lot of air under it, but I honestly think that had more to do with him floating it up there for the receiver to run under than anything else. And I say that because more than half of the receivers running routes rounded off on the second cone and its hard for a QB that has no timing with said WR to know where he is going to make his break and then place the ball accordingly.
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02-22-2009, 11:22 PM	#9
KCwolf Finisher Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland Oregon Casino cash: $3891116	I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please. __________________
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