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Old 02-22-2009, 11:24 PM   #1
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He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.
Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:27 PM   #2
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Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.
No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:34 PM   #3
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No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.
They absolutely were not. If you wanted to see bad throws from the QBs on the deep balls, look at what Painter and Reilly did.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:31 PM   #4
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Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.
It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:

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Neither one of those 9 routes were in stride from Sanchez, but they were good misses.

Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:35 PM   #5
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It's funny that now you say they were perfectly accurate, because during the actual combine, here's what you had to say:




Good misses. I'm not sure how UNDERTHROWING a 9 route makes it a "good miss." Those are often times picked.
Idiot.

#1 I never said they were perfect throws. A perfect throw is to the outside shoulder in stride. I said no one hid them in stride.

If you underthrow a 9 by a half step, the receiver sees it and either gets run into (for a PI) or makes the catch, because it's nigh impossible for a CB running stride for stride to make that adjustment after the receiver has done it.

Hence the prevalence of the fade stop.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:37 PM   #6
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Idiot.

#1 I never said they were perfect throws. A perfect throw is to the outside shoulder in stride. I said no one hid them in stride.

If you underthrow a 9 by a half step, the receiver sees it and either gets run into (for a PI) or makes the catch, because it's nigh impossible for a CB running stride for stride to make that adjustment after the receiver has done it.

Hence the prevalence of the fade stop.
I just QUOTED you in this thread saying they were perfectly accurate.

And those weren't thown a half-step behind the receivers.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:40 PM   #7
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I just QUOTED you in this thread saying they were perfectly accurate.

And those weren't thown a half-step behind the receivers.
Perfectly accurate isn't a perfect throw.

Why is this so hard to understand?

If Pennington hoists up a lollipop that is going to hit his man in stride, but it stays up so long that the CB picks it off, it's an accurate throw, but it's not a perfect throw.

The receivers didn't have to break for the ball, move towards the middle of the field, or slow down much at all. Less than any other QB who threw the deep ball, save for the one Pat White aired out that his receiver had to lay out for to get to because it was overthrown.
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Perfectly accurate isn't a perfect throw.

Why is this so hard to understand?

If Pennington hoists up a lollipop that is going to hit his man in stride, but it stays up so long that the CB picks it off, it's an accurate throw, but it's not a perfect throw.

The receivers didn't have to break for the ball, move towards the middle of the field, or slow down much at all. Less than any other QB who threw the deep ball, save for the one Pat White aired out that his receiver had to lay out for to get to because it was overthrown.
Well, like I said in the combine thread when you were calling me an idiot saying Sanchez threw a perfect post corner route when he threw one out of bounds, and one way behind the receiver, we must have been watching different combines.
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Well, like I said in the combine thread when you were calling me an idiot saying Sanchez threw a perfect post corner route when he threw one out of bounds, and one way behind the receiver, we must have been watching different combines.
Well some people were, hearing some say Pat White looked awesome is mind numbing.
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