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Old 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM  
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Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:40 AM   #346
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That was exactly why I brought up Haynesworth, no matter which front we decide on, we need help up front on defense too...we're taking a QB IMO, and that would mean no Raji....

But I was curious reading some of the responses, would you prefer BJ Raji over Albert Haynesworth?

For the record though, if I can't take the QB, I'm taking Raji b/c I think he's the BPA that's not OT.
Considering the money Haysesworth is going to demand, coupled with what I believe him playing good in his 2 contract years and I expect a decline in play, along with their differences in age, yes I would take Raji over Haynesworth.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:42 AM   #347
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My inside sources tell me these 'sources' work for teams hoping the QB's fall.
I was thinking the same thing. But, then I wondered how many people of influence really read anything the press has to say.

I havn't read all the responses, so sorry if this has been beaten to death already.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:45 PM   #348
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Sanchez did not look very good today, maybe he should have NOT thrown either.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:48 PM   #349
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Did sanchez look as good as drew bledsoe at least?
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:51 PM   #350
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He did nothing to separate himself from the other QBs. He looked VERY average.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:55 PM   #351
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This was news three days ago, you ****.

Matt Ryan didn't throw last year either. What a pussy that guy was.
He doesn't pee his pants though!
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:55 PM   #352
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Sanchez did not look very good today, maybe he should have NOT thrown either.
Maybe he doesn't want to to Detroit.


Can John Gruden BE more of an idiot? Is it even possible?

He and Marriucci should have their ****ing heads examined.

Such stellar comments as, "That Georgia / Georgia Tech game; that's all you need to know".

I think I "need to know" a little more there, hack-job

But hey, if their collective ball wash sells Detroit; Keep Dumbassery Alive!!!
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:58 PM   #353
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Maybe he doesn't want to to Detroit.


Can John Gruden BE more of an idiot? Is it even possible?

He and Marriucci should have their ****ing heads examined.

Such stellar comments as, "That Georgia / Georgia Tech game; that's all you need to know".

I think I "need to know" a little more there, hack-job

But hey, if their collective ball wash sells Detroit; Keep Dumbassery Alive!!!
Maybe he doesnt. That was my first thought about Stafford too, he doesnt want to go to Detroit. I wouldnt blame them.

It was interesting that Faulk basically told Cincy not to draft him so he went #2 to Indy. I didnt remember that.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:12 PM   #354
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He did nothing to separate himself from the other QBs. He looked VERY average.
That's what I saw and hell, Pat White out threw him IMO. On all of Sanchez's long balls he could not hit anyone in stride or even overthrow them, they all had to slow up to catch the ball. Way too much air under the ball IMO.
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That's what I saw and hell, Pat White out threw him IMO. On all of Sanchez's long balls he could not hit anyone in stride or even overthrow them, they all had to slow up to catch the ball. Way too much air under the ball IMO.
Pat White was the best guy out there today. Sanchez even threw balls 3 yards out of bounds on several plays.
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Considering the money Haysesworth is going to demand, coupled with what I believe him playing good in his 2 contract years and I expect a decline in play, along with their differences in age, yes I would take Raji over Haynesworth.
This !!! Haynesworth his first 5yrs was average and then these last 2yrs he decides to step it up for the $$. This guy has Chester McGlockton written all over him
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Did he do the dirty Sanchez? ...
No, it wad done TO him.
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Pat White was the best guy out there today. Sanchez even threw balls 3 yards out of bounds on several plays.
If I were a bettin man I'd say Sanchez slides out of the 1st and will be taken in the 2nd if not the 3rd if his Pro Day doesn't drastically improve because today he showed he is not worthy of the 3rd pick in ANY draft.
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