Chiefs Underclassmen QB's in the draft. - Page 10

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 02:09 PM

Okay, I know that Leaf was a junior. Probably the worst. Showed very quickly that he was not mature enough to make it in the NFL.

Mike Vick came out as a Junior, but again, lacked maturity.

Vince Young was a junior, and has had a mental breakdown.

Aaron Rodgers was a junior, but he was taken later in the first round.

Flacco and Ryan, last year's wonder rookies.... were both seniors.

I see a lot of red flags from Sancez. He was arrested for sexual assault. (I know, this girl was just out for money.... only he was a couple years removed from going pro, and there was no way for her to profit from it at the time, and her mother was the one who called the police)

He only has 16 games of experience and didn't listen to Pete Carroll or his parents that all advised him to go back to school.

He then hires his brother.

So, my question is, has anyone come into the NFL as a junior as a top ten pick that came in and set the NFL on fire?

I mean, Aaron Rodgers was on the bench for three years prior to the Packers leaning on him as there starter.

Do we want a three year waiting period for our QBOTF?

Anyways, I think QB has to be the most level headed and mature position on the field. I see none of that in Sanchez.

In fact, all I see is an arrogant primadonna that isn't smart enough to know what he doesn't know.

There is probably a junior I am misisng. I would love it even more if there is a junior that has on 16 games starting experience and came in as a top pick and set the world on fire.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-23-2009, 12:16 AM

That guy makes Ken Patera look like Churchill.

**doomy3** · 02-23-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You must think Carson Palmer blows too then.

Me?

I wouldn't say he blows, no. I also didn't say Bledsoe blows.

I do think you pump Carson Palmer up a little more than necessary though.

**DeezNutz** · 02-23-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He was pretty awful in most big games, throwing 4 interceptions TWICE in the playoffs. Yes, he got his team to a Super Bowl, but mostly it wasn't because of his play.

This sounds remarkably similar to many of the Roethlisberger criticisms.

Look, he got his teams there. You need to stop at this. We're not talking about a marginally talented QB, like a Dilfer (ironically a high pick) or something.

Let's give the guy some credit. He's a borderline HOF talent. Not the greatest like some thought out of college, but damn good.

I'll say this, KC has never seen a QB with as much talent as Bledsoe. Many in this fan base still latch on to Green. Don't get me wrong, nice player, but talent wise not capable of carrying Bledsoe's jock.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Garcia wasn't an All Pro.

Ok used wrong term. My bad

Pro bowls

Both bledsoe and garcia made the pro bowl 4 times

Bledsoe in 94,96,97,02

Garcia 00,01,02,07

So if garcia is a four time pro bowler let's sign him,right?

If bledsoe meets our standards per talent evaluator mecca
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Mecca · 02-23-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This sounds remarkably similar to many of the Roethlisberger criticisms.

Look, he got his teams there. You need to stop at this. We're not talking about a marginally talented QB, like a Dilfer (ironically a high pick) or something.

Let's give the guy some credit. He's a borderline HOF talent. Not the greatest like some thought out of college, but damn good.

I'll say this, KC has never seen a QB with as much talent as Bledsoe. Many in this fan base still latch on to Green. Don't get me wrong, nice player, but talent wise not capable of carrying Bledsoe's jock.

Bledsoe would have looked like god behind the line Green was behind...with his big arm he'd have just launched it.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You must think Carson Palmer blows too then.

What's palmer have to do with it. Palmer is better than bledsoe.
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**DeezNutz** · 02-23-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Bledsoe would have looked like god behind the line Green was behind...with his big arm he'd have just launched it.

It would have been sick. And then think about what Priest would have been like because of the increased deep threat, and you can just keep going.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That guy makes Ken Patera look like Churchill.

Go back to masterbating. We are trying to have a football discussion.
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Just Passin' By · 02-23-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He was pretty awful in most big games, throwing 4 interceptions TWICE in the playoffs. Yes, he got his team to a Super Bowl, but mostly it wasn't because of his play.

Bledsoe was 4-3 in the playoffs and never lost to a team with a worse record than his team had. Also, I believe that he only had one 4 pick game, and that was in the Super Bowl.

Frankly, that's a better playoff record than Peyton Manning.

ChiefsCountry · 02-23-2009, 12:23 AM

Is Zombie being a douche about Bledsoe again? I had a first today, I put somebody on ignore.

**doomy3** · 02-23-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Bledsoe was 4-3 in the playoffs and never lost to a team with a worse record than his team had. Also, I believe that he only had one 4 pick game, and that was in the Super Bowl.

Frankly, that's a better playoff record than Peyton Manning.

He also had 4 picks in the 94 playoff loss to Cleveland.

**DeezNutz** · 02-23-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Is Zombie being a douche about Bledsoe again? I had a first today, I put somebody on ignore.

I'd imagine this number might increase as we draw closer to draft day.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This sounds remarkably similar to many of the Roethlisberger criticisms.

Look, he got his teams there. You need to stop at this. We're not talking about a marginally talented QB, like a Dilfer (ironically a high pick) or something.

Let's give the guy some credit. He's a borderline HOF talent. Not the greatest like some thought out of college, but damn good.

I'll say this, KC has never seen a QB with as much talent as Bledsoe. Many in this fan base still latch on to Green. Don't get me wrong, nice player, but talent wise not capable of carrying Bledsoe's jock.

Bledsoe got one team there and that was because the patriot defense carried them in the afc playoffs and the jags upset denver

I happen to think roethlisburger is terrific and always have. Tough. A winner clutch. Everything bledsoe was not

And to say green couldn't carry bledsoes jock is almost as stupid as you trying to give bledsoe credit for the patriots winning sb 36.

Or thinking garcia never went to the pro bowl.
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Ultra Peanut · 02-23-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That guy makes Ken Patera look like Churchill.

Yip!

Just Passin' By · 02-23-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

He also had 4 picks in the 94 playoff loss to Cleveland.

Both NFL.com and Pro-football-reference.com are in agreement on Bledsoe NOT having 4 picks in the 94 playoff game against Cleveland.

02-22-2009, 02:09 PM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Underclassmen QB's in the draft. Okay, I know that Leaf was a junior. Probably the worst. Showed very quickly that he was not mature enough to make it in the NFL. Mike Vick came out as a Junior, but again, lacked maturity. Vince Young was a junior, and has had a mental breakdown. Aaron Rodgers was a junior, but he was taken later in the first round. Flacco and Ryan, last year's wonder rookies.... were both seniors. I see a lot of red flags from Sancez. He was arrested for sexual assault. (I know, this girl was just out for money.... only he was a couple years removed from going pro, and there was no way for her to profit from it at the time, and her mother was the one who called the police) He only has 16 games of experience and didn't listen to Pete Carroll or his parents that all advised him to go back to school. He then hires his brother. So, my question is, has anyone come into the NFL as a junior as a top ten pick that came in and set the NFL on fire? I mean, Aaron Rodgers was on the bench for three years prior to the Packers leaning on him as there starter. Do we want a three year waiting period for our QBOTF? Anyways, I think QB has to be the most level headed and mature position on the field. I see none of that in Sanchez. In fact, all I see is an arrogant primadonna that isn't smart enough to know what he doesn't know. There is probably a junior I am misisng. I would love it even more if there is a junior that has on 16 games starting experience and came in as a top pick and set the world on fire.
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