2009 Oscars

[burt]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

All five.

I figured you had, you seemed to have a good grasp of all of them. I will say I am impressed. As much as you and Domer butt heads...he went out and watched all of them also.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by T.B.A.

I figured you had, you seemed to have a good grasp of all of them. I will say I am impressed. As much as you and Domer butt heads...he went out and watched all of them also.

Yeah, but he doesn't think that hip hop is actually music, so what does he know about art?

[burt]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yeah, but he doesn't think that hip hop is actually music, so what does he know about art?

Let's remember, art is subjective.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by T.B.A.

Let's remember, art is subjective.

I was just referencing the 2006 Oscars thread, and an old "discussion," if you will, between Domer and myself.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yeah, but he doesn't think that hip hop is actually music, so what does he know about art?

I don't think hip hop is music, either, but I'd be the first to admit I don't know anything about art, other than really liking The Scream from Munch.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't think hip hop is music, either, but I'd be the first to admit I don't know anything about art, other than really liking The Scream from Munch.

But you've been giving your take on this year's movies. It sounds like you know how to talk about art.

possibly unnecessary clarification: film and music count as "art."

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

But you've been giving your take on this year's movies. It sounds like you know how to talk about art.

possibly unnecessary clarification: film and music count as "art."

Too general. Some film and music is art, just as some art is 'art'. But for every Citizen Kane there's two hundred and fifty (thousand) Night at the Museums. The same goes for every genre of music. It can't be an all-encompassing moniker; art is an individual accomplishment. At least to me it is.

So I would say that perhaps some hip hop could feasibly be 'art'.









(I just haven't heard it happen yet)

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[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Too general. Some film and music is art, just as some art is 'art'. But for every Citizen Kane there's two hundred and fifty (thousand) Night at the Museums. The same goes for every genre of music. It can't be an all-encompassing moniker; art is an individual accomplishment. At least to me it is.

So I would say that perhaps some hip hop could feasibly be 'art'.









(I just haven't heard it happen yet)

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I have to disagree. There can be bad art. Much of it is bad. But it is still artistic expression.

Now, the terrible movies and albums and such that were made only for mass-consumption and money-making? Those fall on the same lines as a beverage label or cereal box art, etc. -- design.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I have to disagree. There can be bad art. Much of it is bad. But it is still artistic expression.

'Art' tends to infer some degree of skill.