NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 41

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

FAX · 02-23-2009, 02:44 PM

It is well known that Stafford is a believer in astrology. Jupiter is in retrograde during the combine. Only a fool would throw with Jupiter in retrograde. Unless your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, of course. In which case, it might be okay. Then again, if your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, your hang down is probably in Mrs. Sagittarius and you better be praying that Mr. Sagittarius doesn't come home early.

FAX

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 02:46 PM

That doesn't explain why stafford didn't throw
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

It is well known that Stafford is a believer in astrology. Jupiter is in retrograde during the combine. Only a fool would throw with Jupiter in retrograde. Unless your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, of course. In which case, it might be okay. Then again, if your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, your hang down is probably in Mrs. Sagittarius and you better be praying that Mr. Sagittarius doesn't come home early.

FAX

Rep.

baitism · 02-23-2009, 02:49 PM

I don't think Stafford is the answer either. I would take Crabtree before him. As stupid as that may sound, I think Crabtree's attitude on and off the field speak volumes for how he will perform at the NFL level.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 02:53 PM

Oh baitism. I hear ya man but you've opened yourself up to moron theatre now.
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warrior · 02-23-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

It is well known that Stafford is a believer in astrology. Jupiter is in retrograde during the combine. Only a fool would throw with Jupiter in retrograde. Unless your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, of course. In which case, it might be okay. Then again, if your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, your hang down is probably in Mrs. Sagittarius and you better be praying that Mr. Sagittarius doesn't come home early.

FAX

LOL I like your take Mr.Fax

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Oh baitism. I hear ya man but you've opened yourself up to moron theatre now.
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Your idiocy alone will suffice for our needs, thank you.

soundmind · 02-23-2009, 03:17 PM

Zombie - for the love of god, come to terms with the idea that we're drafting a QB, unless the sky falls and they acquire Cassel. It's THE logical decision given this year's draft class, the current roster and the kind of compensation demanded of a top 5 selection.

ALL - don't Detroit's activities weigh pretty heavily on us in this? Think about it, if they acquire Cassel, they're likely to draft Curry or an OT...meaning they'd leave us "pick of the litter" which really fires up the Leak/Manning, er Stafford/Sanchez debate....if they don't get Cassel as some have presumed, they're likely to pull the trigger on anyone, QB-OT-OLB-hell it's Detroit-WR...

Who's the consensus #1 this year if there is one? And what do you see Detroit doing?

*all to be prefaced by STL taking an OT to relieve Pace. I'd suggest Raji or QB here, but they just have too much in Bulger, and their OL is strugglin.

Chiefshrink · 02-23-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's what we're gonna do:

I'm gonna bet all my cash.

You're gonna bet all your cash.

After I win, I'm going to put you on a plan, Rent-A-Center style, by which you can make daily transfers in order to get up to the 10K you'll owe.

You are on!! Thx for stepping up to the plate

If the Chiefs take Curry or trade down- I win!
If the Chiefs take Sanchez at 3 or any other player at 3 besides Curry -you win!

Deal?

Chiefshrink · 02-23-2009, 03:42 PM

Gotta get back to work!

kstater · 02-23-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

who cares what you believe, some have already come out in this thread and said so. the poll in the other thread is a pretty good indicator too, when only 14 people disagree with my point of view.

You keep referencing some magical poll. Other than your boyfriend's, which poll are you referring to?

orange · 02-23-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

You keep referencing some magical poll. Other than your boyfriend's, which poll are you referring to?

This one: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202766

kstater · 02-23-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

This one: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202766

The one where only 20% don't want a QB?

orange · 02-23-2009, 04:10 PM

The one where only 13% said they would piss and moan about no QB instead of moving on.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

You keep referencing some magical poll. Other than your boyfriend's, which poll are you referring to?

R to the E to the P!

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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02-23-2009, 02:44 PM	#601
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	It is well known that Stafford is a believer in astrology. Jupiter is in retrograde during the combine. Only a fool would throw with Jupiter in retrograde. Unless your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, of course. In which case, it might be okay. Then again, if your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, your hang down is probably in Mrs. Sagittarius and you better be praying that Mr. Sagittarius doesn't come home early. FAX
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02-23-2009, 02:46 PM	#602
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	That doesn't explain why stafford didn't throw Posted via Mobile Device
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02-23-2009, 02:49 PM	#604
baitism Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $3589551	I don't think Stafford is the answer either. I would take Crabtree before him. As stupid as that may sound, I think Crabtree's attitude on and off the field speak volumes for how he will perform at the NFL level.
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Oh baitism. I hear ya man but you've opened yourself up to moron theatre now. Posted via Mobile Device
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02-23-2009, 03:17 PM	#608
soundmind EB:29 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10004900	Zombie - for the love of god, come to terms with the idea that we're drafting a QB, unless the sky falls and they acquire Cassel. It's THE logical decision given this year's draft class, the current roster and the kind of compensation demanded of a top 5 selection. ALL - don't Detroit's activities weigh pretty heavily on us in this? Think about it, if they acquire Cassel, they're likely to draft Curry or an OT...meaning they'd leave us "pick of the litter" which really fires up the Leak/Manning, er Stafford/Sanchez debate....if they don't get Cassel as some have presumed, they're likely to pull the trigger on anyone, QB-OT-OLB-hell it's Detroit-WR... Who's the consensus #1 this year if there is one? And what do you see Detroit doing? *all to be prefaced by STL taking an OT to relieve Pace. I'd suggest Raji or QB here, but they just have too much in Bulger, and their OL is strugglin.
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02-23-2009, 04:10 PM	#614
orange MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $10004900	The one where only 13% said they would piss and moan about no QB instead of moving on.
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