NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 46

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

Brock · 02-23-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Of course. None of them have the knowledge of the einsteins that inhabit chiefs planet.
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I'll let you explain to me how NFL draft blitz is any more qualified to comment on the draft than anyone on this board.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism

2 picks (one of which is a QB). Such as trading down and getting the 10th pick and a late first rounder.

Uh how are you doing that when the team picking 10th doesn't have a late first rounder to give you?

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

He was pretty clear a few posts ago that he does watch USC football and witnessed Sanchez hobbling all year long...

So he's blind then?

Sanchez moved around in the 1st game of the year.

**SAUTO** · 02-23-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

how do I get in on this bet? Sanchez at #3....I've alaways said Curry at #3 or trade down....

your money and his money = hamas' money. ask hamas he was lookin for another taker

Just Passin' By · 02-23-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think the Eagles are really what people want to be, being a consistent playoff loser isn't my bag.

I wasn't the one who brought them up. I simply responded to that post.

baitism · 02-23-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh how are you doing that when the team picking 10th doesn't have a late first rounder to give you?

It can be done, just has to involve more than one team. I think alot of teams would jump at a chance and would work something out to get a player the likes of Crabtree.

**SAUTO** · 02-23-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

Picking the "safest" choice has done nothing this team in the last twenty years.

was ryan sims the "safest choice?"

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

What games did he miss last year because of injury?

The ones when he was screwing your sister
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kstater · 02-23-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baitism

2 picks (one of which is a QB). Such as trading down and getting the 10th pick and a late first rounder.

Ok, so you trade with SF at 10, where do they get the late first rounder?

CrazyHorse · 02-23-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Quick answer this how many 1st round picks do the Steelers have on defense compared to offense and who is the highest drafted player on their roster?

Not sure. But that defense won the game. Not the QB.

Without the 14 point swing at the end of the half, the pedestrian 17 points the offense scored would've amounted to a snoozer of a SB.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I'll let you explain to me how NFL draft blitz is any more qualified to comment on the draft than anyone on this board.

Priceless shit on chiefs planet.
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Brock · 02-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Priceless shit on chiefs planet.
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Yeah, that's what I figured.

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Not sure. But that defense won the game. Not the QB.

Without the 14 point swing at the end of the half, the pedestrian 17 points the offense scored would've amounted to a snoozer of a SB.

Yea the defense won the game by giving up 14 4th quarter points...I bet a defender drove them down the field at the end too!

Mecca · 02-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Ok, so you trade with SF at 10, where do they get the late first rounder?

His take really makes no sense to me he's acting like this is an NBA trade and a team will just give you a 1st round pick in a 3 team trade to save money.

Brock · 02-23-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Not sure. But that defense won the game. Not the QB.

Without the 14 point swing at the end of the half, the pedestrian 17 points the offense scored would've amounted to a snoozer of a SB.

Without that game winning drive by the franchise QB, they lose.

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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