Top 5 Pick Success Rate

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That's fine, but it's a waste of successful seasons if you can't enjoy them.

I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this past season when my Hawkeyes went 8-4 and capped it off with an impressive bowl win. Even without trouncing it would have been an excellent season. Why? Because of expectations. I don't have any illusions of a National Championship or going to the Rose Bowl every year. Now that the Cardinals have made the SB, the Chiefs are in Bengals/Lions territory, and frankly, I expect more. No, I don't expect them to win it all right now, or even in the near future. But they need to win a SINGLE playoff game once every 2 decades for chrissakes.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Your logic here is terrible, and the resultant Ryan Sims example is meaningless as a result.

The old "your logic is terrible" argument is a cop-out. Reminds me of me circa 2003. If you can't make an argument stick, just call the other guy a dummy. I'll leave it at that, I'm not gonna argue anymore about semantics.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Actually, it definitely does have bearing. Since you insist it doesn't, however, there's no sense discussing it further with you.

It WOULD have a bearing, IF I was in the "we're drafting a QB at all costs" camp, but I'm not.

See, you've made an assumption about me, one that is wholly incorrect.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this past season when my Hawkeyes went 8-4 and capped it off with an impressive bowl win. Even without trouncing it would have been an excellent season. Why? Because of expectations. I don't have any illusions of a National Championship or going to the Rose Bowl every year. Now that the Cardinals have made the SB, the Chiefs are in Bengals/Lions territory, and frankly, I expect more. No, I don't expect them to win it all right now, or even in the near future. But they need to win a SINGLE playoff game once every 2 decades for chrissakes.

I'm glad you enjoyed the Hawkeyes season. It makes my point, although I do understand the frustration that people get when their franchise is struggling long-term.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The old "your logic is terrible" argument is a cop-out. Reminds me of me circa 2003. If you can't make an argument stick, just call the other guy a dummy. I'll leave it at that, I'm not gonna argue anymore about semantics.

It's not a cop-out. Your logic there IS terrible and it makes your attempt to bring the Sims example into it a waste of time. What more do you want said about it?

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It WOULD have a bearing, IF I was in the "we're drafting a QB at all costs" camp, but I'm not.

See, you've made an assumption about me, one that is wholly incorrect.

I never made that assumption, which means that you've made an assumption. And around, and around it goes. I think it clearly has bearing, irregardless of your position on drafting a QB. You insist it doesn't. There's really no reason to discuss it further.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's not a cop-out. Your logic there IS terrible and it makes your attempt to bring the Sims example into it a waste of time. What more do you want said about it?

Can you even explain to me what you think my logic is? At this point, I'm not sure we're even debating the same subject, but I could be wrong.

Are we not talking about the riskiness of players and the likelihood that certain players will flame out? Consider this a concession because I'm so confused now, I'm not even sure what the original point was.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I never made that assumption

Two separate times you said "you and Hamas and company". To anyone with any shred of dignity, that looks like you're lumping me in with them. Don't assert that that wasn't your intention when it clearly was. However, in the interest of not furthering this pissing match, I'm done commenting on it.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can you even explain to me what you think my logic is? At this point, I'm not sure we're even debating the same subject, but I could be wrong.

Are we not talking about the riskiness of players and the likelihood that certain players will flame out? Consider this a concession because I'm so confused now, I'm not even sure what the original point was.

Two separate times you said "you and Hamas and company". To anyone with any shred of dignity, that looks like you're lumping me in with them. Don't assert that that wasn't your intention when it clearly was. However, in the interest of not furthering this pissing match, I'm done commenting on it.

That's this dupe's schtick. Doesn't address the actual issues, lacks reading comprehension, disputes any and everything, doesn't backup assertions with details and/or evidence, resorts to name calling and generalizations, etc.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

That's this dupe's schtick. Doesn't address the actual issues, lacks reading comprehension, disputes any and everything, doesn't backup assertions with details and/or evidence, resorts to name calling and generalizations, etc.

Moves the goalposts when pinned down, subtle insinuations that you are too stupid to understand his point of view, etc.

However, he's not a dupe. He's a Steeler fan originally from Fatchatter.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by arc

Moves the goalposts when pinned down, subtle insinuations that you are too stupid to understand his point of view, etc.

However, he's not a dupe. He's a Steeler fan originally from Fatchatter.

If you're referring to me, I don't move the goalposts and I'm not a Steelers fan. Hell, I haven't needed to even think about moving the goalposts. The blatant errors and lies of the "Gang" makes it unnecessary.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

If you're referring to me, I don't move the goalposts and I'm not a Steelers fan. Hell, I haven't needed to even think about moving the goalposts. The blatant errors and lies of the "Gang" makes it unnecessary.

Sure thing, egami.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Can you even explain to me what you think my logic is? At this point, I'm not sure we're even debating the same subject, but I could be wrong.

Are we not talking about the riskiness of players and the likelihood that certain players will flame out? Consider this a concession because I'm so confused now, I'm not even sure what the original point was.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=105

There's your assertion.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=105

There's your assertion.

That didn't help. I'm still reeruned. Sorry. Forget it.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That didn't help. I'm still reeruned. Sorry. Forget it.

No, you're not reeruned. I'm sorry if I seemed a bit (or a lot) abrasive with you. I'm just tired of Hamas' idiocy and, if I let that annoyance spill over to my posts to you, I apologize sincerely. You certainly had done nothing to merit such a thing.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, you're not reeruned. I'm sorry if I seemed a bit (or a lot) abrasive with you. I'm just tired of Hamas' idiocy and, if I let that annoyance spill over to my posts to you, I apologize sincerely. You certainly had done nothing to merit such a thing.

It's all good.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's not a cop-out. Your logic there IS terrible and it makes your attempt to bring the Sims example into it a waste of time. What more do you want said about it? .

Again with the circular reasoning. His logic is terrible because it's terrible.

That's ridiculous. Please, offer some substantive evidence or get the **** out.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Again with the circular reasoning. His logic is terrible because it's terrible.

That's ridiculous. Please, offer some substantive evidence or get the **** out.

Read the posts. That's what you accused me of not doing even as you weren't reading them, remember?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Read the posts. That's what you accused me of not doing even as you weren't reading them, remember?

I'm sorry, I don't feel the need to read links.