Chiefs Matt Cassel: Good or Bad? - Page 20

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-28-2009, 01:32 PM

We may as well have an easy point of reference for people to be able to come back and eat their crow when this all pans out. Everyone always says I knew it all along. Step up and put it down.

I don't think a 2nd round pick is terrible, but I don't think Matt Cassel will pan out in KC. I'll put it down right here, right now. And now I'll start praying I'm wrong.

Forget the trade. The only thing I want you to commit too is whether or not Cassel is a good or bad choice for QBOTF.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-28-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBrad

Yeah but he does have D. Bowe and T. Gonzalez to throw to. Do not be suprised either if L.J. likes the new offensive plan and has an a big season rushing the ball. Jamal Charles is a dynamic weapon also. I like A. Curry for our draft pick. But if we took Crabtree that would be entertaining on Offense. It would be like an a video game on "O". Curry seems to be the best choice however. He is getting all of this attention out of Wake Forrest and that is not easy to do... He is the real deal. The league is ready for its next batch of dominant linebackers. Curry is going to be a star/ household name. How good will Crabtree be though?

If Cassel is truly the guy, first priority goes to that god-awful, total shite D-line and LB Corps. Hopefully.

KCJohnny · 03-01-2009, 02:00 AM

There's a reason he was a backup all those years. Brady threw for like 50 TDs with the same supporting cast, Cassell had less than half that. I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen, and certainly nowhere near the value.

He's our guy, I'll back him. But I voted bad idea.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-01-2009, 03:50 AM

I think it was a good trade for both sides. I don't think Cassel was worth giving up a 1st round pick for and if Cassel can't cut it, you guys only gave up a 2nd round pick for him.

Hammock Parties · 03-01-2009, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen

As if we needed any more proof of your stupidity.

milkman · 03-01-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

As if we needed any more proof of your stupidity.

Every time a stupid n00b shows up, I think JFC, this guy must be the dumbest muther on the planet.

Then KC Johnny shows back up, and I'm reminded that I've already seen the dumbest muther.

dj56dt58 · 03-01-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

There's a reason he was a backup all those years. Brady threw for like 50 TDs with the same supporting cast, Cassell had less than half that. I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen, and certainly nowhere near the value.

He's our guy, I'll back him. But I voted bad idea.

What? He's not as good as Tom Brady? Get rid of him NOW!!

Mecca · 03-01-2009, 09:36 AM

Kc Johnny thinks he's no better than Thigpen....

Well it's obvious this will workout now.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-01-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

There's a reason he was a backup all those years. Brady threw for like 50 TDs with the same supporting cast, Cassell had less than half that. I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen, and certainly nowhere near the value.

He's our guy, I'll back him. But I voted bad idea.

Because every first year QB should be expected to put up record-breaking numbers in one season, and to be equally good as arguably the best QB of our generation.

If anything, Cassel's season goes to show how good Tom Brady really is. That offensive line looked pretty atrocious when you don't have a QB who is smarter than the defense.

Pablo · 03-01-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Kc Johnny thinks he's no better than Thigpen....

Well it's obvious this will workout now.

We really ought to bring Kris Wilson back to help Cassel out.

Mecca · 03-01-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

We really ought to bring Kris Wilson back to help Cassel out.

He's our best RB!

Really Johnny not liking this makes me feel alot better about it.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-01-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

The problem is, there's just nothing on the net aside from a few highlights that can't tell you how he handles things when the play goes to hell. If anyone knows a way we can acquire, or link to the Pats 2008 season games, it would help us all get a better overall picture.

As far as I'm concerned, I can't fault the guy for lack of experience/playing time because as a Sanchez pimp, they're both on an even playing field in that regard, though obviously Cassel's stretch is one of a professional nature.

I guess I just want to see more. Which is a good thing.

This really changes our focus on the draft, and I'm willing to bet the entire ****ing farm + tractor that trading down is now the strategy. It makes sense because as I've stated before, aside from our Corners and last years other top 3 picks( assuming Dorsey can make the shift to a 3-4 ); we have an empty roster and nary a pot to piss in.

DeathCarlSatan, if you watch that youtube highlight video, you'll notice that the play breaks down an awful lot. The Pats' offensive line is not as good as advertised and it really showed when Cassel was in the game. Looks like he has the elusiveness to run out of the pocket and also to throw on the run. There didn't seem to be a lot of plays where he checked down to multiple reads, but from the clip, it didn't look like he had a ton of time to do that.

I think we hear a lot that he has an amazing offensive line as a supporting cast. But I think even most Pats' fans realize that Brady helps that o-line a lot more than we realized.

speak24 · 03-01-2009, 09:51 AM

100% upgrade. What's next?

Frankie · 03-01-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

There's a reason he was a backup all those years. Brady threw for like 50 TDs with the same supporting cast, Cassell had less than half that. I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen, and certainly nowhere near the value.

He's our guy, I'll back him. But I voted bad idea.

Brady was a back up in college too.

whoman69 · 03-01-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Brady was a back up in college too.

Not the whole time.

whoman69 · 03-01-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

DeathCarlSatan, if you watch that youtube highlight video, you'll notice that the play breaks down an awful lot. The Pats' offensive line is not as good as advertised and it really showed when Cassel was in the game. Looks like he has the elusiveness to run out of the pocket and also to throw on the run. There didn't seem to be a lot of plays where he checked down to multiple reads, but from the clip, it didn't look like he had a ton of time to do that.

I think we hear a lot that he has an amazing offensive line as a supporting cast. But I think even most Pats' fans realize that Brady helps that o-line a lot more than we realized.

The Giants exposed holes in the Pats line and they haven't been able to patch them up since. That said not every team is going to take advantage of that like the Giants. The Pats had some problems, but they still have a ton of weapons which for the most part Cassel was not able to use. This guy has four years on a rookie which gives him less time to reach his prime, which should be about now but he's still learning.

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02-28-2009, 01:32 PM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Matt Cassel: Good or Bad? We may as well have an easy point of reference for people to be able to come back and eat their crow when this all pans out. Everyone always says I knew it all along. Step up and put it down. I don't think a 2nd round pick is terrible, but I don't think Matt Cassel will pan out in KC. I'll put it down right here, right now. And now I'll start praying I'm wrong. Forget the trade. The only thing I want you to commit too is whether or not Cassel is a good or bad choice for QBOTF.
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03-01-2009, 02:00 AM	#287
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	There's a reason he was a backup all those years. Brady threw for like 50 TDs with the same supporting cast, Cassell had less than half that. I'm not sold that Cassell is even an upgrade over Thigpen, and certainly nowhere near the value. He's our guy, I'll back him. But I voted bad idea. __________________
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03-01-2009, 03:50 AM	#288
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	I think it was a good trade for both sides. I don't think Cassel was worth giving up a 1st round pick for and if Cassel can't cut it, you guys only gave up a 2nd round pick for him.
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