Chiefs A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. - Page 4

beach tribe · 03-02-2009, 09:44 AM

Derrick Johnson does not take on blocks, so what makes you think moving inside will improve his game?

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

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Derrick Johnson does not take on blocks, so what makes you think moving inside will improve his game?

Well OLB's in a 3-4 have to beat OT's so he surely isn't gonna be good at that...

beach tribe · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

LOL. HOLY SHIT. WE'RE a TOP 10 D NOW??????

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 09:48 AM

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LOL. HOLY SHIT. WE'RE a TOP 10 D NOW??????

It's the natural progression from #31 and 10 ****ing sacks.

BigChiefFan · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

Wow. An advocate for drafting a 3-4 MLBer in the top 3 equals epic fail.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 09:51 AM

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Wow. An advocate for drafting a 3-4 MLBer in the top 3 equals epic fail.

Actuallly, it is ILB in a 3-4 which is different than an MLB.

BigChiefFan · 03-02-2009, 09:54 AM

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Actuallly, it is ILB in a 3-4 which is different than an MLB.

Demonpenz · 03-02-2009, 09:51 AM

it is going to take years to fix this D. As ususal some people don't want to give up on guys they know and got attachment too. The fact is Tamba and Derrick johnson suck

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 09:54 AM

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it is going to take years to fix this D. As ususal some people don't want to give up on guys they know and got attachment too. The fact is Tamba and Derrick johnson suck

Derrick Johnson needs to go. And, he will in due time. He will be more effective in the 3-4 because the defensive line will not be trying to get upfield, and DJ will see less blockers. He will be able to use his talent to play sideline to sideline. But, please don't think I am a fan of DJ. I didn't want them to draft him and I don't think he is any better today than I did then.

I dissagree on Hali. I think Hali will be very good, and will be one of the foundational pieces of the Chiefs defense.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:55 AM

If you believe in Derrick Johnson at all, which I personally don't, Curry isn't really who you should be picking since they'd play the same 3-4 position.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 10:00 AM

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If you believe in Derrick Johnson at all, which I personally don't, Curry isn't really who you should be picking since they'd play the same 3-4 position.

#1) I am not a DJ fan. Never have been. Understood 'why' the Chiefs took him, just never thought he would be a great player.

#2) DJ and Curry are NOT the same player. Curry is a solid tackler that sheds blocks and blows up plays. He is not a coverage linebacker that runs around blocks. He is also an emotional leader on the field.

#3) You need two ILB's. That is the meaning of 3-4, and BOTH have to be able to cover sideline to sideline.

Perhaps you don't understand the 3-4, but you can rush either OLB, and that shifts one ILB into a pseudo MLB role and one into a pseudo OLB role, depending on the formation and which OLB was rushed.

You need two guys that are good in coverage. You need two guys that can make plays all over the field.

That is why most ILB's are not as big as typical MLB's.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:11 AM

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#1) I am not a DJ fan. Never have been. Understood 'why' the Chiefs took him, just never thought he would be a great player.

#2) DJ and Curry are NOT the same player. Curry is a solid tackler that sheds blocks and blows up plays. He is not a coverage linebacker that runs around blocks. He is also an emotional leader on the field.

#3) You need two ILB's. That is the meaning of 3-4, and BOTH have to be able to cover sideline to sideline.

Perhaps you don't understand the 3-4, but you can rush either OLB, and that shifts one ILB into a pseudo MLB role and one into a pseudo OLB role, depending on the formation and which OLB was rushed.

You need two guys that are good in coverage. You need two guys that can make plays all over the field.

That is why most ILB's are not as big as typical MLB's.

Agree 100% on almost every account.

3-4 ILB's essentially need to be nickel backers. I think DJ and Curry are both suited, Curry perfectly so, to be 3-4 ILB's.

The problem is that we have the #3 overall pick. I've said it before, we picked the wrong year to go 2-14.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 10:18 AM

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Agree 100% on almost every account.

3-4 ILB's essentially need to be nickel backers. I think DJ and Curry are both suited, Curry perfectly so, to be 3-4 ILB's.

The problem is that we have the #3 overall pick. I've said it before, we picked the wrong year to go 2-14.

Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.

I think Curry is one of those guys.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 10:23 AM

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Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.

I think Curry is one of those guys.

Ray Lewis wasn't Ray Lewis coming out of college.

And I would absolutely take a premier safety at #3.

Chief Faithful · 03-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.

I think Curry is one of those guys.

That would be a reason to take Curry. Plus, if he is that kind of player then he could handle playing ILB or OLB.

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