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Old 03-02-2009, 01:58 PM   #1
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So you really consider a 10 loss SEC team to be a quality victory this year? I was saying MU and KU have the same amount of true quality wins. KU has MU and MU has KU. If you want you could maybe throw in Tex for MU and OU for KU but both teams have not played an extremely tough schedule. MU has a couple losses to bubble teams not playing so well late and KU has a loss against a team out of the tournament in Oct. You guys can toot your own horn as much as you like but both teams have the same looking resumes this year.
It looks different to me... You can rationalize away Kansas wins and talk about the one loss to the 100+, but the numbers say Kansas has played 5 more games against the top 50 than Missouri, and they've won 4 of them. Kansas is 13-4 against the top 75 and Missouri is 8-5.

We can argue all day about who would win a 7 game series on a neutral court in Switzerland, but the resumes aren't the same. "Yeah, but..." isn't going to push Kansas down or Missouri up to the same line in the tournament (and FWIW, in this week's Bracketology, Kansas is on the 2 line and Missouri is on the 4 line.... the resumes aren't the same).


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Old 03-02-2009, 06:51 PM   #2
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It looks different to me... You can rationalize away Kansas wins and talk about the one loss to the 100+, but the numbers say Kansas has played 5 more games against the top 50 than Missouri, and they've won 4 of them. Kansas is 13-4 against the top 75 and Missouri is 8-5.

We can argue all day about who would win a 7 game series on a neutral court in Switzerland, but the resumes aren't the same. "Yeah, but..." isn't going to push Kansas down or Missouri up to the same line in the tournament (and FWIW, in this week's Bracketology, Kansas is on the 2 line and Missouri is on the 4 line.... the resumes aren't the same).



RPI 1-25 26-50 51-75 76-100 101-200 201+
4-3 4-1 5-0 0-0 5-1 6-0



RPI 1-25 26-50 51-75 76-100 101-200 201+
1-3 3-0 4-2 0-0 6-0 9-0
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see any MU fans complaining about the rankings, and if they are it is foolish. I think it is an accurate depiction of where the two teams are right now. I'm hoping Mizzou can put on a good show against OU, and maybe even pull out the win. I doubt it, but that would be a nice cap on the regular season to get that nasty loss in beakerville out of our minds.

Kansas's win over Mizzou at AFH was impressive. MU is not ready to play on that stage, luckily we have some important games left to get some of the experience we will need to play in the NCAA tourney.

As a Mizzou fan, I'm just happy to see Mizzou anywhere near the top 25. A 4 seed in the tourney is far more than even the most optimistic Mizzou fan could have dreamed of coming into this season.

Kansas is young and inexperienced, but they are performing very well down the strecth in some hostile environments to boot. You guys are going to be a force to be reckoned with next year, and no slouch this year either.

May KU crash and burn in an epic fashion in the tourney though
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:28 PM   #3
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see any MU fans complaining about the rankings, and if they are it is foolish. I think it is an accurate depiction of where the two teams are right now. I'm hoping Mizzou can put on a good show against OU, and maybe even pull out the win. I doubt it, but that would be a nice cap on the regular season to get that nasty loss in beakerville out of our minds.

Kansas's win over Mizzou at AFH was impressive. MU is not ready to play on that stage, luckily we have some important games left to get some of the experience we will need to play in the NCAA tourney.

As a Mizzou fan, I'm just happy to see Mizzou anywhere near the top 25. A 4 seed in the tourney is far more than even the most optimistic Mizzou fan could have dreamed of coming into this season.

Kansas is young and inexperienced, but they are performing very well down the strecth in some hostile environments to boot. You guys are going to be a force to be reckoned with next year, and no slouch this year either.

May KU crash and burn in an epic fashion in the tourney though
The argument was that Kansas is quite a bit better than Missouri, and the counter was basically "Mizzou split the series" and "scoreboard.

I was hoping to get some decent responses from the Mizzou crowd, but unfortunately logic and reason are anchors in the sea of pointless smack talk.



And I don't know about an epic crash and burn... at the beginning of the season the vast majority of Jayhawks fans were expecting to finish 3rd or 4th in the conference and get a seed around 5+... and 5 might have been high. I'm still in denial about the whole thing, so while I obviously want them to get into the second weekend, and earlier exit isn't going to be a huge disappointment or surprise.
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