Chiefs Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson? - Page 2

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM

I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?

Pioli Zombie · 03-03-2009, 08:20 AM

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SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Glad to know we could have had Stafford instead of Brad Johnson with the Vikings.

#1) I don't think Stafford will be available. So, I dont' think the Chiefs could have had Stafford.

#2) The Chiefs certainly could not have taken Stafford with the 34th pick.

#3) The Chiefs would have had to give up at least a late round pick to get Vrabel.

#4) Finally, I liked Stafford. I think he is the cream of the crop and that is the only QB that I would have liked to see at #3. With THAT said, time will tell how good the guy is. Maybe he is the next John Elway, which is who he reminds me of, and who I think he will compare to. Or, maybe he is the next Ryan Leaf.

Either way, the Chiefs have two solid players for the 34th pick AND they can still take a stud at #3, OR trade down and acquire more picks.

Oh, and I think the only way they get Stafford is to trade up, but I could be wrong.

Ultra Peanut · 03-03-2009, 08:27 AM

I think you're ****ing reeruned.

**Dave Lane** · 03-03-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

What kind of complete deluded moron could possibly believe anything so painfully reeruned?

Mecca · 03-03-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

What kind of complete deluded moron could possibly believe anything so painfully reeruned?

The guy who started this thread thinks it...

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea no kidding.

I enjoyed all the 180 views that happened in a finger snap.

I think a ton of people would have chosen to get Cassel and Vrabel with the 34th pick over drafting Stafford or Sanchez with the #3 pick.

I think most thought that the Chiefs would lose their #3 pick to get him. If nothing else, trading back to #23.

I think if said the Chiefs would get Vrabel and Cassel for #34 AND still keep the #3, there would have been massive support.

There was support when it was reported the Chiefs traded for Vrabel. Many said a fifth or lower for just Vrabel was 'good value'.

I know being intellectually honest isn't your thing, as evidenced by your man love for Sanchez.... but at least try.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

What kind of complete deluded moron could possibly believe anything so painfully reeruned?

I do. In fact, I think he will be a good player in this scheme. The great news is that we get to find out in a few months just how 'reeruned' I am.

Pioli Zombie · 03-03-2009, 08:33 AM

I heard Tamba Hali is being tried out at free safety
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**Dave Lane** · 03-03-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The guy who started this thread thinks it...

That would be so awesome! Hali chasing some TE or a slot WR. Think of the YouTube moments that could bring.

Tipford · 03-03-2009, 08:38 AM

Lets not jump off the deep end here. I don't want Cassell to be the 2nd coming of Len Dawson. I just want him to be himself, and first help lead the Chiefs back to the playoffs. That should be our first concern. Once there, then we can worry about him leading the Chiefs to the promiseland of the Superbowl.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

That would be so awesome! Hali chasing some TE or a slot WR. Think of the YouTube moments that could bring.

OLB in a 3-4, not a 4-3.

Big difference. Not sure if you are aware.

Pioli Zombie · 03-03-2009, 08:41 AM

Tamba Hali: Shutdown corner
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rad · 03-03-2009, 08:46 AM

This guy does:

**QuikSsurfer** · 03-03-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rad

This guy does:

"I got a goo gooo goood brain"

**Skip Towne** · 03-03-2009, 09:00 AM

Is Cassel the seventh son of a seventh son? Lenny is.

03-03-2009, 07:35 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson? I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that. I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road. I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy. In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career. Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green. Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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Tipford Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Lets not jump off the deep end here. I don't want Cassell to be the 2nd coming of Len Dawson. I just want him to be himself, and first help lead the Chiefs back to the playoffs. That should be our first concern. Once there, then we can worry about him leading the Chiefs to the promiseland of the Superbowl.
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