Chiefs FA: What's Left? - Page 2

Micjones · 03-09-2009, 10:43 AM

(FB) Leonard Weaver, 26
(DE) Mike Wright, 27
(DT) Shaun Cody, 26
(LB) Marques Harris, 27
(CB) Leigh Bodden, 27
(KR/PR) Justin Miller, 25

I'd take four of them without blinking.
Wright, Weaver, Harris, and Miller. Justin Miller as a pure returnman could be just what this Special Teams needs. He's dangerous and can provide a much needed spark there.

I'd love to have Weaver... Especially if LJ's going to stay (I think he will).
A good young FB like that can help resurrect him. And Matt Cassel's going to need a solid running game to succeed.

I'm not much of a fan of Shaun Cody, but he could figure in if we do switch over to the 3-4.

Bodden's some kind of CB. We've got two young guys I'm extremely satisfied with, but if they just wanted to get better there...Bodden could help.

The Chiefs still have too many holes to try addressing them all in Free Agency. We're still going to need depth at several positions.

...discuss

**1ChiefsDan** · 03-09-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How'd Bodden do, guys?

Don't know Ocho Cinco.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-09-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Could it be Pioli is waiting for the second round of FA in a few months? I think more quality per dollar will be available when good teams dump overstock players with some talent.

With changes in the salary cap, teams just aren't "dumping" players in June like they did a decade ago. Nearly every team has either re-signed or cut players for salary cap reasons.

The only guys that could possibly upgrade the Chiefs roster will be cut in August.

The Chiefs aren't doing the old "plug and play". They're trying to actually build a roster.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-09-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

With changes in the salary cap, teams just aren't "dumping" players in June like they did a decade ago. Nearly every team has either re-signed or cut players for salary cap reasons.

The only guys that could possibly upgrade the Chiefs roster will be cut in August.

The Chiefs aren't doing the old "plug and play". They're trying to actually build a roster.

What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

Micjones · 03-09-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

Signing 3-4 of these guys should take care of that.
It'd also help shore up this roster.

Titty Meat · 03-09-2009, 12:15 PM

What's up with people on this board and there love of Medicore players? Bernard Pollard, Turk Mcbride, Mike Cox. Mike Cox sucks everyon just thinks he's good cause he played better then the FB the season before cause that guy was a tight end playing fullback.

ChiefRon · 03-09-2009, 12:15 PM

I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us.

Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far.

Here's the latest take from nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Kansas City Chiefs
The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market.

As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams.

I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-09-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What makes you say that, Dane?

Other than Cassel, they haven't signed one player that will still be around when this team is competing for a championship in 3-4 years.

I'm curious as to how they are going to spend enough to reach the salary floor at this point. They are still WAY underneath it.

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-09-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

What's up with people on this board and there love of Medicore players? Bernard Pollard, Turk Mcbride, Mike Cox. Mike Cox sucks everyon just thinks he's good cause he played better then the FB the season before cause that guy was a tight end playing fullback.

Um, why do you think that Mike Cox "sucks"?

Are you completely delusional or do you just appear that way on the internets?

Titty Meat · 03-09-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us.

Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far.

Here's the latest take from nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Kansas City Chiefs
The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market.

As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams.

I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.

I agree they'll sign more free agents after the draft when they have a better idea of what the roster will look like.

Micjones · 03-09-2009, 12:22 PM

There are players available now who can help this team.

bdeg · 03-09-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

If that was their only reason, they should sign him to a front-loaded LTC. We could give him 10mil signing bonus paid out this year, 15 this year and then 5 for the next 3. 4 years 40 mil, plus we can meet the floor this year and have extra room the next few.

You could even make the salary 15-15-5-5-5-5 so it's a 6 year 60 mil deal. I bet we'll have cap space next season too.

Titty Meat · 03-09-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, why do you think that Mike Cox "sucks"?

Are you completely delusional or do you just appear that way on the internets?

I have a different opinon on something I must be delusional. I'm not the one who talks about Mike Cox like he's T-Rich. Mike Cox was such a great part of the run game last year that they switched the offense in the middle of the season. Mike Cox was basically only good at catching the ball out of the backfield he wasn't that great of a blocker like a T-rich or Laurenzo Neal. I'd sign Heath Evans he's much better then Mike Cox why? Because he can do it all thats the Patriots way.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-09-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

"Show...Me...The CONTRACT"!!!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-09-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I have a feeling they're not signing Cassel to a long term deal. I think they just pay him the franchise tender, making them way closer to the salary floor.

Do you think they're going to sign any of these scrubs that are left and if so, who?

No, and that's my point.

It could be argued that all they've done thus far is sign scrubs. I'm not sure I'd consider that "building a roster."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-09-2009, 12:31 PM

And regarding Cassel, if he's not signed to a long-term deal by April 24th, drafting a QB at #3 is still an option.

I wouldn't be shocked if they went that route, knowing that they own Cassel's rights for 2 years.

Cassel helps them compete until the new guy is ready. And if for some reason Cassel turns into Tom Brady v.2, then you have some trade bait.

03-09-2009, 10:43 AM
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	FA: What's Left? (FB) Leonard Weaver, 26 (DE) Mike Wright, 27 (DT) Shaun Cody, 26 (LB) Marques Harris, 27 (CB) Leigh Bodden, 27 (KR/PR) Justin Miller, 25 I'd take four of them without blinking. Wright, Weaver, Harris, and Miller. Justin Miller as a pure returnman could be just what this Special Teams needs. He's dangerous and can provide a much needed spark there. I'd love to have Weaver... Especially if LJ's going to stay (I think he will). A good young FB like that can help resurrect him. And Matt Cassel's going to need a solid running game to succeed. I'm not much of a fan of Shaun Cody, but he could figure in if we do switch over to the 3-4. Bodden's some kind of CB. We've got two young guys I'm extremely satisfied with, but if they just wanted to get better there...Bodden could help. The Chiefs still have too many holes to try addressing them all in Free Agency. We're still going to need depth at several positions. ...discuss
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ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	I don't think we've even seen the "beginning" of FA moves for us. Pioli & Clark have both alluded to being more active in FA, so I'm thinking maybe we just haven't quite started yet, I guess because of the "big-money" deals so far. Here's the latest take from nfl.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true Kansas City Chiefs The combination of a new GM and head coach usually spells lots of action in free agency, especially when the team has as much salary cap space as the Chiefs have in 2009. Scott Pioli knows his team has many needs, but he also is a master of waiting until the first wave of signings is over and prices settle down. No one will have a better feel for the hundreds of free agents still on the market. As we all know, Pioli gave up the 34th overall pick in the draft to acquire Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel. He still has picks number three and 67 to parlay into more picks if he needs to. The Chiefs are starting to bring in free agents such as Bobby Engram, Keith Davis, Travis Daniels and Clark Haggans for visits. Those players fit the mold under which Pioli operated in New England. He's looking for bargains, and he is sure to find a few to bolster his roster depth and special teams. I could see him being very active in the bottom-feeding business even after the draft. Also look for more trades with the Patriots and Dolphins.
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	And regarding Cassel, if he's not signed to a long-term deal by April 24th, drafting a QB at #3 is still an option. I wouldn't be shocked if they went that route, knowing that they own Cassel's rights for 2 years. Cassel helps them compete until the new guy is ready. And if for some reason Cassel turns into Tom Brady v.2, then you have some trade bait.
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