Chiefs Chiefs sticking with spread offense?

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 09:19 AM

I hope we do still run it. The difference between Cassel and Thigpen is one can also play in a Pro Style offense and the other can't. Manning, Brady, Brees, and all the other good QB's use the spread... but they also play from under center like Cassel can.

kcbubb · 03-10-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I hope we do still run it. The difference between Cassel and Thigpen is one can also play in a Pro Style offense and the other can't. Manning, Brady, Brees, and all the other good QB's use the spread... but they also play from under center like Cassel can.

I think it is a little early to say definitively what Thigpen can or can't do. Last year, Cassel was a guy that hadn't started a game since high school and most thought he couldn't do anything.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:52 AM

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I think it is a little early to say definitively what Thigpen can or can't do. Last year, Cassel was a guy that hadn't started a game since high school and most thought he couldn't do anything.

I do think the bashing of Thigpen is a little premature. Yeah, he still has much to work on, and he wasn't 'great' last year, but he had pretty good numbers on a suspect team, and he was only in year two.

Cassel was in his fourth year with a ton of talent.

I liked the move for Cassel because I don't think you can go wrong trying to stockpile promising young talent at the QB position. But, I won't be totally shocked if Thigpen beats him out.

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 09:54 AM

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I do think the bashing of Thigpen is a little premature. Yeah, he still has much to work on, and he wasn't 'great' last year, but he had pretty good numbers on a suspect team, and he was only in year two.

Cassel was in his fourth year with a ton of talent.

I liked the move for Cassel because I don't think you can go wrong trying to stockpile promising young talent at the QB position. But, I won't be totally shocked if Thigpen beats him out.

Croyle and Gray could both beat out Thigpen in TC if its wide open...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-10-2009, 09:56 AM

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Croyle and Gray could both beat out Thigpen in TC if its wide open...

I've been saying the same thing, especially if he's asked to run a pro-style offense.

Wouldn't shock me in the least to see Thigpen as #3, or off the roster completely.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:58 AM

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Croyle and Gray could both beat out Thigpen in TC if its wide open...

Croyle could beat out Cassel too if he could ever stay healthy. He has a better arm than Cassel, Thigpen, Gray or Sanchez. The only guy the Chiefs could have gotten this year with a better arm would be Stafford.

Unfortunately, that great arm is attached to a very frail body.

And, for that reason, I don't think the Chiefs go into another season with him as the starter, even if he is playing better than the other QB's.

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

I think it is a little early to say definitively what Thigpen can or can't do. Last year, Cassel was a guy that hadn't started a game since high school and most thought he couldn't do anything.

Cassel is a classic Pro Style QB and Thigpen is a classic spread QB, you have to be an idiot to argue that or just plain don't watch football.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Cassel is a classic Pro Style QB and Thigpen is a classic spread QB, you have to be an idiot to argue that or just plain don't watch football.

Really? Then I wonder why the classic pro style QB played his best in the spread offense?

Honest question here: Did you actually watch Cassel play much last year?

I am not saying he was running the option like Thigpen did at times, but they looked similar at many times last year.

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 09:57 AM

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Really? Then I wonder why the classic pro style QB played his best in the spread offense?

Honest question here: Did you actually watch Cassel play much last year?

I am not saying he was running the option like Thigpen did at times, but they looked similar at many times last year.

I take it last year was the first time you've ever heard of Cassel then. But since this is the NFL and most QB's have their first pro success from the Shotgun I guess I see no reason for Cassel to be any different.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 10:00 AM

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I take it last year was the first time you've ever heard of Cassel then. But since this is the NFL and most QB's have their first pro success from the Shotgun I guess I see no reason for Cassel to be any different.

Not just talking about the shotgun, talking about the spread offense.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I take it last year was the first time you've ever heard of Cassel then. But since this is the NFL and most QB's have their first pro success from the Shotgun I guess I see no reason for Cassel to be any different.

You raise a good point..... most QB's do have their first success from the shotgun.

It gives the QB a better view of the field and more time to get rid of the ball.

But, I am talking about the actual offense that the Pats were running, not just how the QB got the ball.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-10-2009, 10:00 AM

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Really? Then I wonder why the classic pro style QB played his best in the spread offense?

Honest question here: Did you actually watch Cassel play much last year?

I am not saying he was running the option like Thigpen did at times, but they looked similar at many times last year.

Randy Moss.

Wes Welker.

Josh McDaniels.

Solid OL play.

6th best rushing offense in NFL.

Tell me, how were Cassel and Thigpen similar?

Don't bother responding if all you have is "took snaps from the shotgun."

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 10:02 AM

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Randy Moss.

Wes Welker.

Josh McDaniels.

Solid OL play.

6th best rushing offense in NFL.

Tell me, how were Cassel and Thigpen similar?

Don't bother responding if all you have is "took snaps from the shotgun."

You pointed out the differences in the teams' players... not the offensive schemes.

And, I agree, that Thigpen had inferior talent around him.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-10-2009, 10:04 AM

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You pointed out the differences in the teams' players... not the offensive schemes.

And, I agree, that Thigpen had inferior talent around him.

Those players made that scheme possible and successful.

**SAUTO** · 03-10-2009, 10:04 AM

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Randy Moss.

Wes Welker.

Josh McDaniels.

Solid OL play.6th best rushing offense in NFL.

Tell me, how were Cassel and Thigpen similar?

Don't bother responding if all you have is "took snaps from the shotgun."

i watched several games last year and that "solid o line" must not have shown up for them

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