Chiefs Chiefs sticking with spread offense?

RustShack · 03-10-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

New England and Arizona didn't.
Kansas City, at times, did.

The shotgun does not = the spread.

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

I laugh when people try to say they didn't. It is clear that they have a limited understanding of what the spread offense actually is. I laugh even harder at those ignorant people who think they are laughing at more informed people.

But, ignorance is bliss, so that must be why those people are giggling.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I giggle when people say the Patriots and Cardinals run the spread.

I just googled spread offense. I figured I would put in a few links to try to educate some folks.

Just an overview of the spread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_offense

Specific mention of the Pats running the spread:

http://media.www.tnhonline.com/media...-3467845.shtml

This is from NFL.Com an is a preview of the Colts vs Pats in 2007, and it says specifically, that the Pats have gone to a spread offense.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/previe...2007&week=REG9

Now, see, the point is that spread option is not the only spread offense. The Chiefs did use the spread option at times last year, but that isn't the only reason they were a spread offense.

Now, hopefully, we can get the 'giggling' out of the way and have a serious football discussion based on FACTS.

Sully · 03-10-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I just googled spread offense. I figured I would put in a few links to try to educate some folks.

Just an overview of the spread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_offense

Specific mention of the Pats running the spread:

http://media.www.tnhonline.com/media...-3467845.shtml

This is from NFL.Com an is a preview of the Colts vs Pats in 2007, and it says specifically, that the Pats have gone to a spread offense.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/previe...2007&week=REG9

Now, see, the point is that spread option is not the only spread offense. The Chiefs did use the spread option at times last year, but that isn't the only reason they were a spread offense.

Now, hopefully, we can get the 'giggling' out of the way and have a serious football discussion based on FACTS.

I looked at the first two links, which both, in so many words, stated that if you go 3-4 wide with shotgun, you are running the spread.
Oddly, though, they both mentioned no-huddle and quick pace (one part that's true).
I think they are both weak, and both incorrect.

I couldn't get to the 3rd link at work.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

I looked at the first two links, which both, in so many words, stated that if you go 3-4 wide with shotgun, you are running the spread.
Oddly, though, they both mentioned no-huddle and quick pace (one part that's true).
I think they are both weak, and both incorrect.

I couldn't get to the 3rd link at work.

See, I think you are under the impression that it can only be the spread if you use the spread option. That is not the case.

And, I believe in a few games, the Pats even ran the spread option in the form of the wild cat formation..... but that was not what I was talking about.

After this came up, I just googled spread offense.... Patriots spread offense, cardinals spread offense.

And, several things popped up from different people that supported my position. Most were mainly bloggers that don't have a done of credibility. But, I think now that you know where I am coming from you will agree that the Pats and Cards did run the spread.

Sully · 03-10-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

See, I think you are under the impression that it can only be the spread if you use the spread option. That is not the case.

And, I believe in a few games, the Pats even ran the spread option in the form of the wild cat formation..... but that was not what I was talking about.

After this came up, I just googled spread offense.... Patriots spread offense, cardinals spread offense.

And, several things popped up from different people that supported my position. Most were mainly bloggers that don't have a done of credibility. But, I think now that you know where I am coming from you will agree that the Pats and Cards did run the spread.

You can be under the impression that I think that, but since I never gave you any evidence to think that, you'd be wrong.
And I don't agree about the pats and cards.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

You can be under the impression that I think that, but since I never gave you any evidence to think that, you'd be wrong.
And I don't agree about the pats and cards.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

You can be under the impression that I think that, but since I never gave you any evidence to think that, you'd be wrong.
And I don't agree about the pats and cards.

The fact that you don't agree about the Pats and Cards demonstrates your ignorance, not mine.

You really haven't given me any evidence or logic for what you think. That is probably because you have none of either on this subject.

philfree · 03-10-2009, 04:22 PM

I would imagine that running "the spread" in college is alot different then a pro offense spreading out the D with some spread formations. In college the O linemen line up farther apart when theyrun the spread. I don't think NFL O linemen would line up near as far apart as the Mizzou linemen do.

PhilFree

Sully · 03-10-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

The fact that you don't agree about the Pats and Cards demonstrates your ignorance, not mine.

You really haven't given me any evidence or logic for what you think. That is probably because you have none of either on this subject.

I've coached on a team that runs the spread for three years. I've sat in on clinics with mizzou and ku coaches, as well as met with a few of the teams that run it best in the area. I know a little bit about it. I'm not the be all end all on it, but so far I haven't seen you come near a convincing argument.

htismaqe · 03-11-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

The fact that you don't agree about the Pats and Cards demonstrates your ignorance, not mine.

You really haven't given me any evidence or logic for what you think. That is probably because you have none of either on this subject.

It's not ignorance at all.

His definition of the spread offense and yours are completely different. I happen to agree with him.

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