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MMXcalibur · 03-10-2009, 08:29 PM

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After a contentious conference call between quarterback Jay Cutler and the Denver Broncos' brass on Monday, the situation has gone "from bad to worse", according to a source close to the situation.

The call was supposed to be a meeting of the minds between Cutler and the Broncos' brass, in particular new head coach Josh McDaniels. The two got sideways Feb. 28 when word broke that McDaniels, the former New England offensive coordinator who replaced Mike Shanahan after 14 seasons, engaged in discussions about acquiring Matt Cassel from the Patriots in a three-way trade. Cutler had maintained the Broncos initiated the talks. McDaniels publicly said he was approached about a deal.

The conference call was anything but genial and the two sides are now further apart than prior to it, the source said. The source said that the Broncos' tone of the conference call was as if Cutler created the situation by asking for the trade and not the other way around.

The source said McDaniels wouldn't confirm or deny whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks. The Broncos did, though, tell Cutler that every player on the team could be traded and he could be traded at any time. Still, Denver owner Pat Bowlen also stated in the conversation that Cutler will not be traded. The Broncos publicly said Cutler will not be traded last week as the Cutler trade frenzy was in full force.

After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term. The source maintains Cutler was totally on board with McDaniels until the trade talks story broke and that trust is Cutler's biggest problem with McDaniels and the organization.

The source said Cutler is still mulling over whether he will show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, which begins Monday.

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Chiefnj2 · 03-11-2009, 09:50 AM

KC takes Stafford at #3, and then a three way trade ensues.

KC ends up with Stafford, the #10 and #12 and two thirds.
49ers get Cutler, lose their 1st and 3rd.
Broncos get Cassel, lose their 1st and 3rd.

vailpass · 03-11-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I understand that hope is a dangerous thing......but the AFC West definently looks winnable next season.

Have you been watching the FA moves made by the AFC West teams?
What is it you see that improves KC from the horrible team they were last year to division winners this year?

Chief Roundup · 03-11-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

KC takes Stafford at #3, and then a three way trade ensues.

KC ends up with Stafford, the #10 and #12 and two thirds.
49ers get Cutler, lose their 1st and 3rd.
Broncos get Cassel, lose their 1st and 3rd.

damn you need to put down the

or something

Brock · 03-11-2009, 10:19 AM

htismaqe · 03-11-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

KC takes Stafford at #3, and then a three way trade ensues.

KC ends up with Stafford, the #10 and #12 and two thirds.
49ers get Cutler, lose their 1st and 3rd.
Broncos get Cassel, lose their 1st and 3rd.

Wow.

That would be outrageous if it happened. Although I'd rather replace "Stafford" with "Sanchez".

MMXcalibur · 03-11-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Have you been watching the FA moves made by the AFC West teams?
What is it you see that improves KC from the horrible team they were last year to division winners this year?

I say this with the hopes that Cutler jettisons elsewhere, the Chargers continue not playing up to their potential and the Raiders continue being.....well...the Raiders. 8-8 was good enough to win the West last year....not saying it'll happen again this season, but you have to think KC might have an okay shot at the division if all those situations occur.

Of course, I still fully expect the Chargers to pull their heads out of their ass and dominate.

Chiefnj2 · 03-11-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

damn you need to put down the

or something

It's a good deal. San Fran gets a legitimate young QB that made a pro bowl who can start from day 1. They aren't getting that in the draft this year.

Denver gets the guy they wanted and they end the dumb-ass QB saga they started. Cutler is gone, it's just a matter of when. Cassel can start day 1.

KC gets, IMO, the young QB with a higher ceiling than Cassel, plus a bunch of picks to help rebuild.

Chief Roundup · 03-11-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It's a good deal. San Fran gets a legitimate young QB that made a pro bowl who can start from day 1. They aren't getting that in the draft this year.

Denver gets the guy they wanted and they end the dumb-ass QB saga they started. Cutler is gone, it's just a matter of when. Cassel can start day 1.

KC gets, IMO, the young QB with a higher ceiling than Cassel, plus a bunch of picks to help rebuild.

Yeah but to think that Denver is going to give up Cutler and the #12 for Cassel is soooo unrealistic.

Not so sure Singletary would want to give up #10 for Cutler when Sanchez will probably be setting there.

**DeezNutz** · 03-11-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

I can't wait for the season to start. It's going to be a great year.

Lambda Lambda Lambda1113111

vailpass · 03-11-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I say this with the hopes that Cutler jettisons elsewhere, the Chargers continue not playing up to their potential and the Raiders continue being.....well...the Raiders. 8-8 was good enough to win the West last year....not saying it'll happen again this season, but you have to think KC might have an okay shot at the division if all those situations occur.

Of course, I still fully expect the Chargers to pull their heads out of their ass and dominate.

Thanks, that makes sense. There sure is a lot of change going on in the AFC West right now. In the off-season hope springs eternal for all of us.
Except Charger fan unless they can Norv

vailpass · 03-11-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Lambda Lambda Lambda1113111

OK I give, what does that mean? Is there a Reveng of the Nerds thing in there somewhere?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-11-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I got it, we will trade them Cassel for Cutler & their first round pick. Then deal Cutler to the Bucs for their first round pick. Draft Sanchez, Maualuga, and Hayward-Bey. Pioli looks like a genius then.

That would be the JMP of the Century.

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Donkey KONG'D!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver Dave

Our whiskey guzzlin, good ole boy from Nashville will beat the shit out of your pretty boy USC QB. It's on bitches!!!

FAIL.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Wow.

That would be outrageous if it happened. Although I'd rather replace "Stafford" with "Sanchez".

This!

Caption this photo!

MISSES HIS SHANNAHAN BLANKY.

**DeezNutz** · 03-11-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

OK I give, what does that mean? Is there a Reveng of the Nerds thing in there somewhere?

Oh, it's going to be a great year!

Classic Nerds line.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-11-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh, it's going to be a great year!

Classic Nerds line.

"See that man over there"?

Yeah.

"He was arrested for Mopery".

What's mopery?

"Exposing yourself to a blind person".

vailpass · 03-11-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh, it's going to be a great year!

Classic Nerds line.

Thanks, I wasn't quite sure.
I been combing the high schools all day.

03-10-2009, 08:29 PM
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $-144914	Cutler situation gone from "bad to worse" http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3968896 Source: Cutler, Broncos further apart Comment Email Print Share By Bill Williamson ESPN.com Archive After a contentious conference call between quarterback Jay Cutler and the Denver Broncos' brass on Monday, the situation has gone "from bad to worse", according to a source close to the situation. The call was supposed to be a meeting of the minds between Cutler and the Broncos' brass, in particular new head coach Josh McDaniels. The two got sideways Feb. 28 when word broke that McDaniels, the former New England offensive coordinator who replaced Mike Shanahan after 14 seasons, engaged in discussions about acquiring Matt Cassel from the Patriots in a three-way trade. Cutler had maintained the Broncos initiated the talks. McDaniels publicly said he was approached about a deal. The conference call was anything but genial and the two sides are now further apart than prior to it, the source said. The source said that the Broncos' tone of the conference call was as if Cutler created the situation by asking for the trade and not the other way around. The source said McDaniels wouldn't confirm or deny whether the Broncos initiated the trade talks. The Broncos did, though, tell Cutler that every player on the team could be traded and he could be traded at any time. Still, Denver owner Pat Bowlen also stated in the conversation that Cutler will not be traded. The Broncos publicly said Cutler will not be traded last week as the Cutler trade frenzy was in full force. After the phone call, Cutler, the source said, would rather be traded now if Denver isn't going to commit to him long-term. The source maintains Cutler was totally on board with McDaniels until the trade talks story broke and that trust is Cutler's biggest problem with McDaniels and the organization. The source said Cutler is still mulling over whether he will show up for the team's offseason conditioning program, which begins Monday. ---------------------- Sorry if repost....
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