Other Sports Bracketology Thread - Page 6

BWillie · 03-14-2009, 12:43 PM

Updated: March 14, 2009
EAST (Boston)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA (27-3)
(16) RADFORD (18-11) / Big South
(8) Oklahoma St (22-11)
(9) SIENA (26-7)
Miami
(5) Illinois (24-8)
(12) TEMPLE (21-11) / A-10
(4) Syracuse (25-8)
(13) WESTERN KENTUCKY (23-8) / Sun Belt
Philadelphia
(6) Arizona St (24-8)
(11) Maryland (20-12)
(3) Villanova (26-7)
(14) AMERICAN (24-7) / Patriot
Kansas City
(7) BYU (24-7)
(10) Wisconsin (18-12)
(2) Kansas (25-7)
(15) CS NORTHRIDGE (15-13) / Big West
WEST (Arizona)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut (27-4)
(16) MORGAN ST (21-11) / MEAC
(8) Butler (25-5)
(9) Texas A&M (22-9)
Portland
(5) Xavier (25-7)
(12) Saint Mary's (24-6)
(4) Washington (24-8)
(13) NORTH DAKOTA ST (24-6) / Summit
Boise
(6) Clemson (23-8)
(11) UTAH ST (28-4)
(3) MISSOURI (26-6)
(14) EAST TENN ST (21-10) / Atl Sun
Kansas City
(7) Texas (22-11)
(10) Michigan (19-13)
(2) MEMPHIS (30-3)
(15) PORTLAND ST (20-9) / Big Sky

MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) Pittsburgh (27-4)
(16) Opening-round Game
(8) California (22-10)
(9) Ohio State (21-9)
Boise
(5) Florida St (24-8)
(12) NORTHERN IOWA (22-10) / MVC
(4) GONZAGA (25-5)
(13) CLEVELAND ST (22-10) / Horizon
Miami
(6) LSU (26-6)
(11) San Diego St (21-8)
(3) Wake Forest (24-6)
(14) BINGHAMTON (21-8) / Amer East
Minneapolis
(7) Marquette (24-9)
(10) Dayton (26-7)
(2) MICHIGAN ST (26-5)
(15) CORNELL (19-9) / Ivy
SOUTH (Memphis)
Dayton
(1) LOUISVILLE (27-5)
(16) MOREHEAD ST (17-15) / OVC
(8) UTAH (23-8)
(9) Boston College (22-11)
Portland
(5) Purdue (23-9)
(12) VCU (24-9) / CAA
(4) UCLA (25-8)
(13) BUFFALO (21-10) / MAC
Minneapolis
(6) West Virginia (23-11)
(11) Creighton (26-7)
(3) Oklahoma (27-5)
(14) STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (19-7) / Southland
Minneapolis
(7) Tennessee (20-11)
(10) Minnesota (21-10)
(2) Duke (26-6)
(15) ROBERT MORRIS (24-10) / Northeast

They still have Kansas a #2 even after getting whooped by Baylor and Tech. If KU gets a 2, I will shit myself and not change my drawers for weeks. No freaking way.

Do you know how you can get 7 teams to lose in the first round? Invite 7 Big 10 teams to the tournament. What a joke.

I don't see anyway possible that the Big East doesn't get three #1 seeds this year. That has got to be some sort of record.

beer bacon · 03-14-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I think OU gets a higher seed than both MU & KU and OU hasn't won shit this year right?

OU will get a higher seed. If the college basketball season was broken into its three parts, here is how the selection committee would rank them. #1 being most important for seeding:

1. Non-conference (body-of-work)
2. Conference play
3. Conference tournament

**doomy3** · 03-14-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw

I don't "value" anything more. Everything factors in.

Well, you said their resumes were similar. If they are similar, and one finished first in conference and one finished third, and the third place team wins the conference tournament, then you say MU is more deserving, isn't that valuing the tournament more then the regular season championship?

beer bacon · 03-14-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Well, MU got dominated by Texas A&M in their last regular season game with a lot on the line. Also, they lost by 25 to KU in their third to last game. Those are pretty bad losses as well.

I guess if you lose to Baylor tonight, it won't be as bad as KU losing to them, because it's in the championship, right?

MU didn't get dominated by A&M. MU shot over 50% and still lost by 10 since A&M was lights out and shot over 60%.

**doomy3** · 03-14-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

MU didn't get dominated by A&M. MU shot over 50% and still lost by 10 since A&M was lights out and shot over 60%.

MU got destroyed the first half and came back to make the score closer than the game was. They were never in the game though.

And, by the way, as much as you are beating your chest about KU losing to Texas Tech, the exact same thing could be said about that game. TT shot absolutely lights out that game, and KU still had a chance to win it at the end.

eazyb81 · 03-14-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Well, MU got dominated by Texas A&M in their last regular season game with a lot on the line. Also, they lost by 25 to KU in their third to last game. Those are pretty bad losses as well.

I guess if you lose to Baylor tonight, it won't be as bad as KU losing to them, because it's in the championship, right?

Well to be fair, I'm not sure anyone would call a 10 point loss getting "dominated."

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall any committee members saying they factored in point differential. So thump your chest all you want, but a loss is a loss in their eyes.

Stewie · 03-14-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I wouldn't characterize it as a comeback. For that post to be a "comeback," I would have to be responding towards a comment directed at me. As far as I can tell, you were directing the original post to who ever else exists in your land of imagination.

So, your response wasn't directed at me? I'm pretty sure it was. I posted and you responded to the post. That is, in an incongruous, poor grammar sort of way.

beer bacon · 03-14-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

MU got destroyed the first half and came back to make the score closer than the game was. They were never in the game though.

And, by the way, as much as you are beating your chest about KU losing to Texas Tech, the exact same thing could be said about that game. TT shot absolutely lights out that game, and KU still had a chance to win it at the end.

Hahaha, you lost by 19 to Texas Tech.

KChiefs1 · 03-14-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

OU will get a higher seed. If the college basketball season was broken into its three parts, here is how the selection committee would rank them. #1 being most important for seeding:

1. Non-conference (body-of-work)
2. Conference play
3. Conference tournament

I agree with this...I was responding to doomy because he said KU deserved a better seed over MU because they won the conference.

OU will end up with a better seed than KU & what did OU win?

IMHO...MU, OU & KU all have similar resumes.

**doomy3** · 03-14-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Hahaha, you lost by 19 to Texas Tech.

Oh yeah, we did get dominated that game. Sorry, tried to wipe that one out of my memory and had it kind of mixed up with Baylor.

WoodDraw · 03-14-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Well, you said their resumes were similar. If they are similar, and one finished first in conference and one finished third, and the third place team wins the conference tournament, then you say MU is more deserving, isn't that valuing the tournament more then the regular season championship?

The season doesn't end with the regular season. I said their resumes were similar, taking into account all games played all season, including the nonconf, conference, and tournament play. I think you can make an argument for any of the three teams deserving a #2 seed, as we've seen here.

**doomy3** · 03-14-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I agree with this...I was responding to doomy because he said KU deserved a better seed over MU because they won the conference.

OU will end up with a better seed than KU & what did OU win?

IMHO...MU, OU & KU all have similar resumes.

You wanna show me where I said that?

As far as I know, the only thing I have said about where they should be seeded is where I said they should be lumped in with OU, Duke, Villanova for the remaining #2 seeds...

Stewie · 03-14-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodDraw

The season doesn't end with the regular season.

The problem is that some league's seasons do end after the regular season.

beer bacon · 03-14-2009, 02:41 PM

Here is a stupid hypothetical. IF KU's and MU's positions were reversed. That is, if MU had finished third in conference, but in the top 15 in the nation. If KU was playing in the Big 12 Championship today, but had only had to beat one mediocre team and one good but not great team to get there. If basically the rest of the elite teams had lost in the last two or three days...would KU be getting talked about as a potential #1 seed right now?

**Reaper16** · 03-14-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

So, your response wasn't directed at me? I'm pretty sure it was. I posted and you responded to the post. That is, in an incongruous, poor grammar sort of way.

I was sure as Hell responding to your post. But that response wouldn't be characterized as a comeback, because the post of yours that I responded to wasn't directed at me. It was directed at whoever would believe your fraudulent depiction of MU fans.

Now, your response to my post, where you called my post a comeback? THAT was a comeback.

**doomy3** · 03-14-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

Here is a stupid hypothetical. IF KU's and MU's positions were reversed. That is, if MU had finished third in conference, but in the top 15 in the nation. If KU was playing in the Big 12 Championship today, but had only had to beat one mediocre team and one good but not great team to get there. If basically the rest of the elite teams had lost in the last two or three days...would KU be getting talked about as a potential #1 seed right now?

Not if KU had finished third in conference.

But yes, if KU had won conference like they did and were now playing for the tourney championship. I still think they would likely have ended up a #2 though. Probably the #1 two seed.

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BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1468759	Bracketology Thread Updated: March 14, 2009 EAST (Boston) Greensboro (1) NORTH CAROLINA (27-3) (16) RADFORD (18-11) / Big South (8) Oklahoma St (22-11) (9) SIENA (26-7) Miami (5) Illinois (24-8) (12) TEMPLE (21-11) / A-10 (4) Syracuse (25-8) (13) WESTERN KENTUCKY (23-8) / Sun Belt Philadelphia (6) Arizona St (24-8) (11) Maryland (20-12) (3) Villanova (26-7) (14) AMERICAN (24-7) / Patriot Kansas City (7) BYU (24-7) (10) Wisconsin (18-12) (2) Kansas (25-7) (15) CS NORTHRIDGE (15-13) / Big West WEST (Arizona) Philadelphia (1) Connecticut (27-4) (16) MORGAN ST (21-11) / MEAC (8) Butler (25-5) (9) Texas A&M (22-9) Portland (5) Xavier (25-7) (12) Saint Mary's (24-6) (4) Washington (24-8) (13) NORTH DAKOTA ST (24-6) / Summit Boise (6) Clemson (23-8) (11) UTAH ST (28-4) (3) MISSOURI (26-6) (14) EAST TENN ST (21-10) / Atl Sun Kansas City (7) Texas (22-11) (10) Michigan (19-13) (2) MEMPHIS (30-3) (15) PORTLAND ST (20-9) / Big Sky MIDWEST (Indianapolis) Dayton (1) Pittsburgh (27-4) (16) Opening-round Game (8) California (22-10) (9) Ohio State (21-9) Boise (5) Florida St (24-8) (12) NORTHERN IOWA (22-10) / MVC (4) GONZAGA (25-5) (13) CLEVELAND ST (22-10) / Horizon Miami (6) LSU (26-6) (11) San Diego St (21-8) (3) Wake Forest (24-6) (14) BINGHAMTON (21-8) / Amer East Minneapolis (7) Marquette (24-9) (10) Dayton (26-7) (2) MICHIGAN ST (26-5) (15) CORNELL (19-9) / Ivy SOUTH (Memphis) Dayton (1) LOUISVILLE (27-5) (16) MOREHEAD ST (17-15) / OVC (8) UTAH (23-8) (9) Boston College (22-11) Portland (5) Purdue (23-9) (12) VCU (24-9) / CAA (4) UCLA (25-8) (13) BUFFALO (21-10) / MAC Minneapolis (6) West Virginia (23-11) (11) Creighton (26-7) (3) Oklahoma (27-5) (14) STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (19-7) / Southland Minneapolis (7) Tennessee (20-11) (10) Minnesota (21-10) (2) Duke (26-6) (15) ROBERT MORRIS (24-10) / Northeast They still have Kansas a #2 even after getting whooped by Baylor and Tech. If KU gets a 2, I will shit myself and not change my drawers for weeks. No freaking way. Do you know how you can get 7 teams to lose in the first round? Invite 7 Big 10 teams to the tournament. What a joke. I don't see anyway possible that the Big East doesn't get three #1 seeds this year. That has got to be some sort of record.
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beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	Here is a stupid hypothetical. IF KU's and MU's positions were reversed. That is, if MU had finished third in conference, but in the top 15 in the nation. If KU was playing in the Big 12 Championship today, but had only had to beat one mediocre team and one good but not great team to get there. If basically the rest of the elite teams had lost in the last two or three days...would KU be getting talked about as a potential #1 seed right now?
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