Bracketology Thread

[BWillie]

Updated: March 14, 2009
EAST (Boston)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA (27-3)
(16) RADFORD (18-11) / Big South
(8) Oklahoma St (22-11)
(9) SIENA (26-7)
Miami
(5) Illinois (24-8)
(12) TEMPLE (21-11) / A-10
(4) Syracuse (25-8)
(13) WESTERN KENTUCKY (23-8) / Sun Belt
Philadelphia
(6) Arizona St (24-8)
(11) Maryland (20-12)
(3) Villanova (26-7)
(14) AMERICAN (24-7) / Patriot
Kansas City
(7) BYU (24-7)
(10) Wisconsin (18-12)
(2) Kansas (25-7)
(15) CS NORTHRIDGE (15-13) / Big West
WEST (Arizona)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut (27-4)
(16) MORGAN ST (21-11) / MEAC
(8) Butler (25-5)
(9) Texas A&M (22-9)
Portland
(5) Xavier (25-7)
(12) Saint Mary's (24-6)
(4) Washington (24-8)
(13) NORTH DAKOTA ST (24-6) / Summit
Boise
(6) Clemson (23-8)
(11) UTAH ST (28-4)
(3) MISSOURI (26-6)
(14) EAST TENN ST (21-10) / Atl Sun
Kansas City
(7) Texas (22-11)
(10) Michigan (19-13)
(2) MEMPHIS (30-3)
(15) PORTLAND ST (20-9) / Big Sky



MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) Pittsburgh (27-4)
(16) Opening-round Game
(8) California (22-10)
(9) Ohio State (21-9)
Boise
(5) Florida St (24-8)
(12) NORTHERN IOWA (22-10) / MVC
(4) GONZAGA (25-5)
(13) CLEVELAND ST (22-10) / Horizon
Miami
(6) LSU (26-6)
(11) San Diego St (21-8)
(3) Wake Forest (24-6)
(14) BINGHAMTON (21-8) / Amer East
Minneapolis
(7) Marquette (24-9)
(10) Dayton (26-7)
(2) MICHIGAN ST (26-5)
(15) CORNELL (19-9) / Ivy
SOUTH (Memphis)
Dayton
(1) LOUISVILLE (27-5)
(16) MOREHEAD ST (17-15) / OVC
(8) UTAH (23-8)
(9) Boston College (22-11)
Portland
(5) Purdue (23-9)
(12) VCU (24-9) / CAA
(4) UCLA (25-8)
(13) BUFFALO (21-10) / MAC
Minneapolis
(6) West Virginia (23-11)
(11) Creighton (26-7)
(3) Oklahoma (27-5)
(14) STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (19-7) / Southland
Minneapolis
(7) Tennessee (20-11)
(10) Minnesota (21-10)
(2) Duke (26-6)
(15) ROBERT MORRIS (24-10) / Northeast




They still have Kansas a #2 even after getting whooped by Baylor and Tech. If KU gets a 2, I will shit myself and not change my drawers for weeks. No freaking way.

Do you know how you can get 7 teams to lose in the first round? Invite 7 Big 10 teams to the tournament. What a joke.

I don't see anyway possible that the Big East doesn't get three #1 seeds this year. That has got to be some sort of record.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I wear #4 and I'M GONNA EAT YOU.

p. much

Can you imagine a path of Morgan State, Cal/Minnesota, Nova/Texas, and Michigan State? Jesus Christ.

Wow. Practically spoon-fed. You'd have to favor Memphis' utterly impenetrable defense in a bracket like that.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I wear #4 and I'M GONNA EAT YOU.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I'm saying UConn did it to themselves, if they don't get a #1 seed. Our schedule wasn't as good this year as it was last year, and thanks to us struggling to find a PG in December we lost to the two top 20 teams we played, but UConn not only lost to that same team in March, but they did it after losing their previous game.

I'm asking you to justify why Memphis should get a 1 over UConn. I can make very easy arguments for UConn.

Coming into that 6 overtime game against Syracuse, Connecticut had lost exactly one game this year against a team other than Pittsburgh: 27-1. They have about three times as many wins on the road/at neutral sites over tournament teams than Memphis has total wins over tournament teams.

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Meanwhile, we haven't lost since before Christmas, including games on the road at top-25 Tennessee, top-30 Gonzaga, and top-50 UAB.

Tennessee and Gonzaga are fine wins, but they're probably not going to get higher than a 5 or 6 seed tops and UAB's not making the tournament. Those are resume-padders, but they aren't the basis for a team arguing to be a 1 seed.

On the road alone UConn went 13-1 with wins:

@ Louisville by about 20
@ Marquette
@ West Virginia
@ Gonzaga
@ Notre Dame, snapping their 44 game home winning streak
@ Cincinnati(who beat UAB)

And they hammered Wisconsin and Miami on a neutral court.

Plus home wins over the likes of Villanova, Syracuse, and Michigan.

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

The question is, is the committee going to want to give a #1 to a team that's hit a skid, didn't advance past the conference quarterfinals, and has actually been swept by another team -- no matter how good -- this year?

Do you understand what you're calling a 'skid'? Every team in the country experienced much worse than a loss @Pittsburgh followed by a 6 overtime loss to a team like Syracuse at some point. Using that as justification for looking past the whole body of work UConn put forward is inane.

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

You're probably going to be #2 in the East, which is just as good as a 1-seed for your purposes.

How do you figure, particularly if we end up in UNC's bracket?

I don't even see much daylight between UConn's resume and Carolina's.

[Ultra Peanut]

I praised UConn's resume in another thread. You have the better SOS and more opportunities vs. top 20 teams going for you, and we have the whole "haven't lost since before America ever had a black President" thing going for us. Michigan State has a great RPI, and their insanely mediocre conference somehow managed to cobble together some respectable top 40 RPIs, on the whole, though there's the "you lost to several so-so teams and got clobbered by UNC" thing they have to worry about. Pitt and UL have the "we swept/finished better than UConn" thing in their favor, if the committee decides to only go with 2 #1 seeds from one conference. Duke has a #2 RPI and may end up winning God's Conference. It's a mess.

Also, if you're going to count @Notre Dame(74) and @Cincinnati(85), then I'm going to count @Tulsa (56), @UTEP (84), and @Houston (87). And we beat Cincinnati. But hey, #56 Tulsa is way less impressive than #64 Miami!

[HolmeZz]

I was counting Notre Dame because we snapped their 44 game home winning streak(and record 20 game home winning streak within the Big East). That was significant, though moreso at the time.

I only included Cincinnati because they beat a UAB team that you included. I wouldn't hold that up otherwise, particularly when we've got much better wins than that.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

How do you figure, particularly if we end up in UNC's bracket?

And what number do you wear?

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I was counting Notre Dame because we snapped their 44 game home winning streak(and record 20 game home winning streak within the Big East). That was significant, though moreso at the time.

I only included Cincinnati because they beat a UAB team that you included.

Oklahoma lost to Arkansas, and Michigan State lost to Northwestern, but that doesn't make them noteworthy.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Oklahoma lost to Arkansas, and Michigan State lost to Northwestern, but that doesn't make them noteworthy.

I don't even know what this argument is about anymore.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by KevB

And what number do you wear?

#00

[eazyb81]

Like I said earlier, ku will get the 2 and Mizzou and ou will get 3 seeds.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I don't even know what this argument is about anymore.

Marist vs. Bryant*, who would win? It's the battle of Memphis OOC cupcake vs. UConn OOC cupcake, and the winner gets a trip to the CollegeInsider.com Invitational**!

*Kobe?

** I think the CBI and CI.com tourneys are actually a ploy by the NIT to make their own tournament look more prestigious by comparison.

[88TG88]

HOW BOUT THEM TROJANS !1!1111

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by 88TG88

HOW BOUT THEM TROJANS !1!1111

Why did you guys underachieve so much this year?

[Buck]

Man I'm hoping that SDSU makes it.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by MediaCenterJunkie

Man I'm hoping that SDSU makes it.

Well, they're no Kentucky or Penn State.

By which I mean to say, they wouldn't be a ****ing pathetic selection.