****Official 2009 ChiefsPlanet Mock Draft****

[OnTheWarpath15]

Round 1

1 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
2 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
3 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins) - Mark Sanchez, QB, University of Southern California
4 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81) - Eugene Monroe, OT, University of Virginia
5 BROWNS (Sfeihc) - Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest.
6 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
7 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis) - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
8 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker) - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
9 PACKERS (milkman) - BJ Raji, NT, Boston College
10 49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas
11 BILLS (Mecca) - Rey Maualuga, LB, Southern California
12 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State University
13 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
14 SAINTS (Direckshun) - Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
15 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Brian Cushing, OLB, Southern California
16 CHARGERS (Zouk) - Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
17 JETS (Archie Bunker) - Darrius Heyward-Bey WR, Maryland
18 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
19 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins) - Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State
20 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
21 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
22 VIKINGS (Sfeihc) - Alex Mack, C, California
23 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State
24 FALCONS (milkman) - Clay Matthews, LB, Southern California
25 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois
26 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP) - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
27 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
28 COLTS (Mecca) - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
29 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
30 TITANS (Zouk) - DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
31 CARDINALS (Eazyb81) - LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh
32 STEELERS (Marco Polo) - Eben Britton, OT, Arizona


Round 2


33 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
34 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia
35 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
36 BROWNS (Sfeihc) - Connor Barwin, DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati
37 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81) - Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
38 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
39 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker) - Max Unger G/C, Oregon
40 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis) - Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
41 PACKERS (milkman) - Fenuki Topou, OT, Oregon
42 BILLS (Mecca) - Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
43 49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
44 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
45 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Sean Smith, DB, Utah
46 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut
47 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon
48 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Ron Brace, DT/NT, Boston College
49 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
50 BROWNS (Sfeihc) - Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State
51 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - William Moore, S, Missouri
52 JETS (Archie Bunker) - Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose State
53 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Robert Ayers, DE, University of Tennessee
54 VIKINGS (Sfeihc) - Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
55 FALCONS (milkman) - Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss
56 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan
57 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP) - Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU
58 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon
59 COLTS (Mecca) - Eric Wood, C, Louisville
60 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
61 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan) - Fili Moala, DT, Southern California
62 TITANS (Zouk) - Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma
63 CARDINALS (Eazyb81) - Lawrence Sidbury, OLB, Richmond
64 STEELERS (Marco Polo) - Chris Baker, NT, Hampton



Round 3


65 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
66 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
67 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cody Brown, OLB, Connecticut
68 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81) - Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
69 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Herman Johnson, OG, LSU
70 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
71 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis) - Paul Kruger, DE, Utah
72 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker) - Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane
73 PACKERS (milkman) - James Davis, RB, Clemson
74 49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
75 BILLS (Mecca) - Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State
76 JETS (Archie Bunker) - Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
77 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Nic Harris, SS, Oklahoma
78 CHARGERS (Zouk) - Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson
79 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Nate Davis, QB, Ball State
80 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Brandon Gibson, WR, Washington State University
81 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins) - Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State
82 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
83 PACKERS (milkman) - Mike Mickens, CB, Cinncinnati
84 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas
85 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois
86 VIKINGS (Sfeihc) - Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
87 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
88 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP) - Mitch King, DE, Iowa
89 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
90 FALCONS (milkman) - Matt Shaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin
91 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri
92 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan) - Phillip Hunt, OLB, Houston
93 COLTS (Mecca) - Marcus Freeman OLB, Ohio State
94 TITANS (Zouk) - Sherrod Martin, CB, Troy
95 CARDINALS (Eazyb81) - Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati
96 STEELERS (BigChiefFan) - Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty
PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - James Casey, TE, Rice
BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Shonn Greene, RB Iowa
BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - TJ Lang, OT, Eastern Michigan
GIANTS (Direckshun) - Gerald McRath, LB, Southern Miss



Round 4


97 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Sammie Lee Hill, DT, Stillman
98 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins) - Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State University
99 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Tyrone McKenzie, OLB, South Florida
100 BROWNS (Sfeihc) - Kory Sheets, RB, Purdue
101 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81) - Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, LSU
102 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida
103 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker) - Andre Brown, RB, North Carolina St
104 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis) - Mohamed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
105 PACKERS (milkman) - Stryker Sulak, DE/OLB, Missouri
106 BILLS (Mecca) - Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland
107 49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Dannell Ellerbe, ILB, Georgia
108 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Pat White, QB, West Virginia
109 CHARGERS (Zouk) - Chip Vaughn, S, Wake Forest
110 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Brandon Williams, DE/OLB, Texas Tech
111 JETS (Archie Bunker) - Michael Hamlin, S, Clemson
112 SAINTS (Direckshun) - Zack Follett, OLB, California
113 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Sebastian Vollmer, OT, Houston
114 JETS (Archie Bunker) - Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon St
115 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Derrick Pegues, FS, Mississippi State
116 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins) - Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State
117 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Aaron Kelly, WR, Clemson
118 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Asher Allen, CB, Georgia
119 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP) - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
120 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Jasper Brinkley, ILB, South Carolina
121 FALCONS (milkman) - Jamarca Sanford, SS, Ole Miss
122 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Scott McKillop, LB, Pitt
123 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan) - Tyronne Green, OG, Auburn
124 COLTS (Mecca) - Terrance Taylor, DT, Michigan
125 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Daniel Holtzclaw, MLB, Eastern Michigan
126 TITANS (Zouk) - Lydon Murtha OT Nebraska
127 CARDINALS (Eazyb81) - Donald Washington, CB, Ohio State
128 STEELERS (BigChiefFan) - Jason Phillips, ILB, TCU
CHARGERS (Zouk) - Mike Thomas WR, Arizona
CHARGERS (Zouk) - Javon Ringer RB, Michigan St.
TITANS (Zouk) - Jason Williams LB, W. Illinois.
COLTS (Mecca) - Kaluka Maiava, OLB, USC



Round 5


129 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - David Bruton, FS, Notre Dame
130 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Cedric Peerman RB Virginia
131 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins) - Cornelius Lewis OG/RT, Tennessee State.
132 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Jason McCourty, CB, Rutgers
133 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - A.Q. Shipley, OG/OC, Penn State
134 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry) - Vance Walker, DT Georgia Tech
135 FALCONS (milkman) - Ra'Shon Harris, DT, Oregon
136 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker) - Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss
137 PACKERS (milkman) - Will Johnson, DT/DE, Michigan
138 49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Jason Watkins, OT, Florida
139 BILLS (Mecca) - Chris Clemons, S, Clemson
140 CHARGERS (Zouk) - Alex Fletcher, C, Stanford
141 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23) - Worrell Williams, ILB, California
142 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan) - Louis Vasquez, OG, Texas Tech
143 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Antone Smith, RB, Florida State
144 TEXANS (Marco Polo) - Mark Parson, CB, Ohio
145 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Darcel McBath, FS, Texas Tech
146 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Clinton McDonald, DT,Memphis
147 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins) - Jonathan Casillas, OLB, Wisconsin
148 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Domonique Johnson, CB, Jackson State
149 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23) - Brandon Hughes, CB, Oregon State
150 VIKINGS (Sfeihc) - Joe Burnett, CB, UCF
151 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Mike Goodson, RB, Texas A&M
152 FALCONS (milkman) - Roger Allen, G, Missouri Western St.
153 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis) - Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama
154 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP) -Kevin Ogletree, WR, Virginia
155 COLTS (Mecca) - Arian Foster, RB, Tennessee
156 GIANTS (Direckshun) - Brice McCain,CB, Utah
157 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan) - Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian
158 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice
159 CARDINALS (Eazyb81) - Ian Campbell, OLB, Kansas State
160 STEELERS (BigChiefFan) - Austin Collie, WR, BYU
STEELERS (BigChiefFan) - Joel Bell, OT, Furman
PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58) - Brandon Tate, WR, North Carolina
49ERS (DaKCMan AP) - Christopher Owens, CB, San Jose State
COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry) - Henry Melton, DE/OLB, Texas
TITANS (Zouk) - Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia



Round 6


161 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58) - DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincinnati
162 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins) - Terrance Knighton, DT/DE, Temple
163 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts) - Orion Martin, DE, Virginia Tech
164 BROWNS (Sfeihc) - Sammie Stroughter, WR, Oregon State
165 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81) - Marlon Lucky, RB, Nebraska
166 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry)
167 JAGUARS (Archie Bunker)
168 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis)
169 PACKERS (milkman)
170 BILLS (Mecca)
171 49ERS (DaKCMan AP)
172 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23)
173 REDSKINS (BigChiefFan)
174 PACKERS (milkman)
175 TEXANS (Marco Polo)
176 CHARGERS (Zouk)
177 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts)
178 BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts)
179 LIONS (OnTheWarpath58)
180 JETS (Archie Bunker)
181 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23)
182 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23)
183 FALCONS (milkman)
184 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry)
185 RAVENS (DaKCMan AP)
186 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58)
187 GIANTS (Direckshun)
188 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan)
189 COLTS (Mecca)
190 TITANS (Zouk)
191 CARDINALS (Eazyb81)
192 STEELERS (BigChiefFan)
TITANS (Zouk)
PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58)
COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry)
BENGALS (ChiefsCountry)



Round 7


193 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry)
194 RAMS (Mr. Flopnuts)
195 CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins)
196 SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81)
197 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis)
198 BENGALS (ChiefsCountry)
199 RAIDERS (Spicy McHaggis)
200 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins)
201 PACKERS (milkman)
202 49ERS (DaKCMan AP)
203 BILLS (Mecca)
204 VIKINGS (Sfeihc)
205 SAINTS (Direckshun)
206 TEXANS (Marco Polo)
207 CHARGERS (Zouk)
208 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23)
209 STEELERS (BigChiefFan)
210 COWBOYS (ChiefsCountry)
211 JETS (Archie Bunker)
212 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins)
213 EAGLES (pestilenceaf23)
214 VIKINGS (Sfeihc)
215 DOLPHINS (Spicy McHaggis)
216 BUCCANEERS (Hamas Jenkins)
217 PATRIOTS (OnTheWarpath58)
218 BRONCOS (pestilenceaf23)
219 PANTHERS (BigChiefFan)
220 COLTS (Mecca)
221 GIANTS (Direckshun)
222 TITANS (Zouk)
223 CARDINALS (Eazyb81)
224 STEELERS (BigChiefFan)
TITANS (Zouk)
REDSKINS (BigChiefFan)
49ERS (DaKCMan AP)
SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81)
BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts)
SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81)
SEAHAWKS (Eazyb81)
BENGALS (ChiefsCountry)
JAGUARS (Archie Bunker)
BEARS (Mr. Flopnuts)
BENGALS (ChiefsCountry)
JAGUARS (Archie Bunker)
CARDINALS (Eazyb81)
LIONS (OnTheWarpath58)
CHIEFS (Hamas Jenkins)

[orange]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

In ANY CAPPED YEAR. 2010 is not a capped year, genious.

And, as Shefter reports, I am correct, and full of win, as always.

any player with five or more Accrued Seasons, or with four or more Accrued Seasons in any Capped Year


You want to try reading that again, genius? "five" OR "four" "in any Capped Year." (Though that is supplanted by the special "Final League Year after a capped year rule" I posted above.)

And while you're at it, try reading Schefter again and see that Cassel will make $17 million (110% of his 2009 salary, whatever that is) and you are wrong as usual; you're definitely full of something, though.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So very, very irrelevant.


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Ah, here are the actual numbers. This was sitting in a tab I should have read an hour ago.

Now, an interesting item to follow is Cassel’s contract status. He can play out this year at $14.65M and either be a restricted free agent next year (if it is uncapped) with a tender number of $16.12M (110 percent of this year’s number) or, if 2010 does have a Cap, an unrestricted free agent or tagged again at a $17.58M number (120 percent of this year’s number). Or, of course, he can work out a deal. With $32.23M in likely guaranteed income without a new deal, Cassel is, shall we say, in a highly favorable economic position.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ey-matters-26/

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bills select Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State

Pretty easy pick honestly.

Dammit, Mecca.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by orange

any player with five or more Accrued Seasons, or with four or more Accrued Seasons in any Capped Year


You want to try reading that again, genius? "five" OR "four" "in any Capped Year." (Though that is supplanted by the special "Final League Year after a capped year rule" I posted above.)

And while you're at it, try reading Schefter again and see that Cassel will make $17 million (110% of his 2009 salary, whatever that is) and you are wrong as usual; you're definitely full of something, though.




So very, very irrelevant.


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Ah, here are the actual numbers. This was sitting in a tab I should have read an hour ago.

Now, an interesting item to follow is Cassel’s contract status. He can play out this year at $14.65M and either be a restricted free agent next year (if it is uncapped) with a tender number of $16.12M (110 percent of this year’s number) or, if 2010 does have a Cap, an unrestricted free agent or tagged again at a $17.58M number (120 percent of this year’s number). Or, of course, he can work out a deal. With $32.23M in likely guaranteed income without a new deal, Cassel is, shall we say, in a highly favorable economic position.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ey-matters-26/

So, in summation, I was right about owning his rights, and right about the fact that we can tender him for draft pick compensation, but was wrong about the amount that he'll be paid.

Awesome. And I'm full of something?

[orange]

You justified your entire idiotic scheme on having Cassel for peanuts. Yes, you're full of something.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Or, if Cassel plays OK to good, and it looks like Stafford/Sanchez are PB material, since we own Cassel's rights for two years, as a RFA (due to CBA expiration), we can put a 1st and third round claim on him and get more in return for him if we don't match anyone else who signs him to an offer sheet.

So, if you give me the option of flipping Matt Cassel to some other team who will only have to pay him 2.5 million next year for a 1st and third when we paid a second for him, and I get a year to season Stafford/Sanchez, I do that 1 billion times out of 10.

But, since the Hooties of the world only think in terms of today, they'll bash the pick.

Maybe you should take your own advice:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you don't know how NFL personnel moves work, don't post in this thread.

Cassel will be a RFA after next year. Since we own his rights, if we tender him to an offer sheet of 2.65 mil, if another team wants him, they sign him for dirt cheap (2.65), and have to pay a compensation of a 1st and 3rd round pick.

He qualified as a UFA this year because of the CBA, but with its expiration next year, it will revert to a player needing 6 years of experience. He'll have five. Thus, we own his rights, even if he's not signed to a contract.

We won't be desperate to unload him like NE, so we can hold onto him until a team in desperate need of a QB is willing to pay that price (say Minnesota). We get a late first and a late third for Matt Cassel when we paid a second for him, and we have a quarterback with elite upside to replace him who we didn't have to throw to the wolves.

I've said this from day one. I'm sorry if I actually know how personnel moves and FA work in the NFL, I know it must be terribly offensive to run into someone who knows WTF he's talking about.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by orange

You justified your entire idiotic scheme on having Cassel for peanuts. Yes, you're full of something.

We own his rights and can unload him at any time in the next two years without having to give him a long term extension and worry about him killing our cap with an accelerated bonus, so yeah.

Again, the most important thing is that we can offload him for draft pick compensation to a team desperate for a QB because we have an assload of cap room this year, and since 2010 won't be capped, a team that wants him can have him without cap implications.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by orange

You justified your entire idiotic scheme on having Cassel for peanuts. Yes, you're full of something.



Maybe you should take your own advice:

The only thing that was wrong was his compensation. Everything else, trade compensation, the FA structure, RFA qualifications, was right.

I'm not the one who posted a bunch of wildly contradictory information from my sources that I disagreed with, then agreed with, then disagreed with.

[orange]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The only thing that was wrong was his compensation. Everything else, trade compensation, the FA structure, RFA qualifications, was right.

I'm not the one who posted a bunch of wildly contradictory information from my sources that I disagreed with, then agreed with, then disagreed with.

The ONLY THING THAT MATTERS is the compensation. That's the same reason Cassel was so "cheap" to acquire this year. No one will trade much for him with that salary.

As for my posts of different information - I actually tried and found the truth.

You just kept clinging to your own half-baked nonsense as if it were meaningful - after you offered yourself as some kind of expert.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by orange

The ONLY THING THAT MATTERS is the compensation. That's the same reason Cassel was so "cheap" to acquire this year. No one will trade much for him with that salary.

As for my posts of different information - I actually tried and found the truth.

You just kept clinging to your own half-baked nonsense as if it were meaningful.

Cassel's money only means something in relation to the cap. If you think teams, that dole out 10's of millions of dollars in bonuses every year, are worried about paying a guy 17 million when it has no implication on the cap, you're insane.

If a team trades their first for Cassel next year, they aren't going to be spending any more money on him in that first year than they would the draft pick with a signing bonus if it was a top 20ish pick, so it's not going to be fiscally crushing either.

[orange]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cassel's money only means something in relation to the cap. If you think teams, that dole out 10's of millions of dollars in bonuses every year, are worried about paying a guy 17 million when it has no implication on the cap, you're insane.

If a team trades their first for Cassel next year, they aren't going to be spending any more money on him in that first year than they would the draft pick with a signing bonus if it was a top 20ish pick, so it's not going to be fiscally crushing either.

You're laughable - bouncing from one completely ridiculous claim to the next. The new contract - 2011 on - will certainly have a cap. And if the actual money is not an issue, why are the Chiefs not signing free agents?

Even disregarding cap concerns, teams won't pay Cassel BECAUSE HE'S NOT WORTH IT.

[Archie Bunker]

The New York Jets select Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by orange

You're laughable - bouncing from one completely ridiculous claim to the next. The new contract - 2011 on - will certainly have a cap. And if the actual money is not an issue, why are the Chiefs not signing free agents?

Even disregarding cap concerns, teams won't pay Cassel BECAUSE HE'S NOT WORTH IT.

The Chiefs aren't signing free agents because we're not taking a Bronco approach to team building that assumes that every swinging dick out there is some how an upgrade.

Guess what: If new team A signs Cassel to an extension after trading for him, they can accelerate all of his bonus money up to the 2010 uncapped year, b/c they pay it out then anyway, and thus his cap number for the successive years becomes far more manageable, because you aren't carrying 1/6 or 1/5 of the bonus money tacked onto his base + any incentives.

[milkman]

Is this next pick the one that the Pack received from the Jets for Favre, or are the Jets up?

I am not sure, because the team listed here is the Pack, but Archie Bunker is listed as the selector?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by milkman

Is this next pick the one that the Pack received from the Jets for Favre, or are the Jets up?

I am not sure, because the team listed here is the Pack, but Archie Bunker is listed as the selector?

My mistake.

Pick #76 belongs to the Jets, via New Orleans.

The selection stands - sorry for the confusion. The Texans are on the clock.

[Marco Polo]

A bone-crushing play-making strong safety is urgently needed for the Texans.

The Houston Texans select Nic Harris, SS, Oklahoma.

***In other news, time constraint can only allow me to manage the Texans. Anyone want to manage the Steelers from here on out?***

The Chargers are on the clock.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

***In other news, time constraint can only allow me to manage the Texans. Anyone want to manage the Steelers from here on out?***

BigChiefFan had the fewest number of picks going in - the Steelers are his if he wants them.

Lemme know, BCF.