Bracketology Thread

[BWillie]

Updated: March 14, 2009
EAST (Boston)
Greensboro
(1) NORTH CAROLINA (27-3)
(16) RADFORD (18-11) / Big South
(8) Oklahoma St (22-11)
(9) SIENA (26-7)
Miami
(5) Illinois (24-8)
(12) TEMPLE (21-11) / A-10
(4) Syracuse (25-8)
(13) WESTERN KENTUCKY (23-8) / Sun Belt
Philadelphia
(6) Arizona St (24-8)
(11) Maryland (20-12)
(3) Villanova (26-7)
(14) AMERICAN (24-7) / Patriot
Kansas City
(7) BYU (24-7)
(10) Wisconsin (18-12)
(2) Kansas (25-7)
(15) CS NORTHRIDGE (15-13) / Big West
WEST (Arizona)
Philadelphia
(1) Connecticut (27-4)
(16) MORGAN ST (21-11) / MEAC
(8) Butler (25-5)
(9) Texas A&M (22-9)
Portland
(5) Xavier (25-7)
(12) Saint Mary's (24-6)
(4) Washington (24-8)
(13) NORTH DAKOTA ST (24-6) / Summit
Boise
(6) Clemson (23-8)
(11) UTAH ST (28-4)
(3) MISSOURI (26-6)
(14) EAST TENN ST (21-10) / Atl Sun
Kansas City
(7) Texas (22-11)
(10) Michigan (19-13)
(2) MEMPHIS (30-3)
(15) PORTLAND ST (20-9) / Big Sky



MIDWEST (Indianapolis)
Dayton
(1) Pittsburgh (27-4)
(16) Opening-round Game
(8) California (22-10)
(9) Ohio State (21-9)
Boise
(5) Florida St (24-8)
(12) NORTHERN IOWA (22-10) / MVC
(4) GONZAGA (25-5)
(13) CLEVELAND ST (22-10) / Horizon
Miami
(6) LSU (26-6)
(11) San Diego St (21-8)
(3) Wake Forest (24-6)
(14) BINGHAMTON (21-8) / Amer East
Minneapolis
(7) Marquette (24-9)
(10) Dayton (26-7)
(2) MICHIGAN ST (26-5)
(15) CORNELL (19-9) / Ivy
SOUTH (Memphis)
Dayton
(1) LOUISVILLE (27-5)
(16) MOREHEAD ST (17-15) / OVC
(8) UTAH (23-8)
(9) Boston College (22-11)
Portland
(5) Purdue (23-9)
(12) VCU (24-9) / CAA
(4) UCLA (25-8)
(13) BUFFALO (21-10) / MAC
Minneapolis
(6) West Virginia (23-11)
(11) Creighton (26-7)
(3) Oklahoma (27-5)
(14) STEPHEN F. AUSTIN (19-7) / Southland
Minneapolis
(7) Tennessee (20-11)
(10) Minnesota (21-10)
(2) Duke (26-6)
(15) ROBERT MORRIS (24-10) / Northeast




They still have Kansas a #2 even after getting whooped by Baylor and Tech. If KU gets a 2, I will shit myself and not change my drawers for weeks. No freaking way.

Do you know how you can get 7 teams to lose in the first round? Invite 7 Big 10 teams to the tournament. What a joke.

I don't see anyway possible that the Big East doesn't get three #1 seeds this year. That has got to be some sort of record.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Is that our time or Boise time?

Your time.

[Ultra Peanut]

This is one hell of a tournament:

CollegeInsider.com Invitational
Rider at Liberty
Kent St. at Oakland University
The Citadel at Old Dominion
Mount St. Mary's at James Madison
Austin Peay at Bradley
Belmont at Evansville
Portland at Pacific
Drake at Evansville

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

This is one hell of a tournament:

CollegeInsider.com Invitational
Rider at Liberty
Kent St. at Oakland University
The Citadel at Old Dominion
Mount St. Mary's at James Madison
Austin Peay at Bradley
Belmont at Evansville
Portland at Pacific
Drake at Evansville

So they have an N.I.T. for teams that don't make the NIT?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

This is one hell of a tournament:

CollegeInsider.com Invitational
Rider at Liberty
Kent St. at Oakland University
The Citadel at Old Dominion
Mount St. Mary's at James Madison
Austin Peay at Bradley
Belmont at Evansville
Portland at Pacific
Drake at Evansville

Go Pacific!

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Spott

So they have an N.I.T. for teams that don't make the NIT?

That's the NIT for teams that didn't make the NIT's NIT.

By which I mean to say, the hierarchy is:

NCAA
NIT
CBI
CI.com

The CBI first round schedule:

3/17/09 Northeastern vs. Wyoming 9 p.m. HDNet
3/17/09 UTEP vs. Nevada 11 p.m. HDNet
3/18/09 St. John's vs. Richmond 7 p.m.
3/18/09 Vermont vs. Green Bay 8 p.m.
3/18/09 Charleston vs. Troy 8 p.m.
3/18/09 Buffalo vs. Wichita State 8 p.m. HDNet
3/18/09 Houston vs. Oregon State 10 p.m. HDNet
3/18/09 Boise State vs. Stanford

This actually looks like a half-decent field, Oregon State notwithstanding. At least there are some top 100 teams in this bitch.

[Ultra Peanut]

Just as a strange tidbit, this week's Coaches' Poll is the FIRST TIME IN HISTORY that Louisville has been ranked #1. Weird, innit?

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

This is one hell of a tournament:

CollegeInsider.com Invitational
Rider at Liberty
Kent St. at Oakland University
The Citadel at Old Dominion
Mount St. Mary's at James Madison
Austin Peay at Bradley
Belmont at Evansville
Portland at Pacific
Drake at Evansville

Where's Bucknell?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by MediaCenterJunkie

If SDSU and KSU win their 1st round games, KSU will host SDSU due to SDSU hosting the Women's NCAA tournament on those dates.

I heard they might find an alternate site in San Diego...can you verify that?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

This is one hell of a tournament:

CollegeInsider.com Invitational
Rider at Liberty
Kent St. at Oakland University
The Citadel at Old Dominion
Mount St. Mary's at James Madison
Austin Peay at Bradley
Belmont at Evansville
Portland at Pacific
Drake at Evansville

Evansville plays twice, huh? Brutal.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Evansville plays twice, huh? Brutal.

They're so badass they're going to stand in for UDAHO.

Here we go:

Tuesday March 17
Rider (19-12) @ Liberty (22-11)
Kent State (19-14) @ Oakland (22-12)

Wednesday March 18
The Citadel (20-12) @ Old Dominion (21-10)
Mount St. Mary’s (19-13) @ James Madison (19-14)
Austin Peay (19-13) @ Bradley (18-14)
Belmont (19-12) @ Evansville (17-13)
Portland (19-12) @ Pacific (19-12)
Drake (17-15) @ Idaho (16-15)

[Ultra Peanut]

I guess this guy from the Los Angeles NBC affiliate turned off last year's game with 10 seconds left:

"Cal State Northridge players will say they are not just happy to be in the tournament — but maybe they should be. The Matadors won the Big West but that earned them a 15 seed, and they drew defending national champion Memphis. Ranked third in the nation Memphis. That game takes place Thursday in Kansas City, part of the West bracket."

[Skip Towne]

Since MU hasn't been to the Dance in eons, I doubt they know it is not friendly to their style of play. When Roy was at KU, we played even faster than MU does. And Roy blamed Tourney time out rules for his lack of winning it all. The timeouts last forever in the Dance and it lets your opponent rest when they otherwise would be gasping for air. Roy said he had time to take a nap during commercials. Anyhow, it is much harder to wear an opponent out in the Dance than it is during the season. Just so you know. We don't want you to get any surprises.

[Ceej]

Go Shockers! Beat Buffaro.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by MediaCenterJunkie

**** Arizona.

The Mountain West got 2 bids.

This is a ****in' Joke.

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

With that said...San Diego State is a better bb team at this point...than is Arizona. SDSU's RPI was 37....

There's a strong argument that the mountain west deserved 3 teams....over teams like:

Arizona
Michigan

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Yes...

And Arizona beat no one on the road...

Originally Posted by eazyb81

Arizona has some huge wins. Who has San Diego State or St. Mary's beaten?

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

a valid point....they came up 2 pts short against St Mary's....and had some other close calls...but no "big wins".

I guess the argument is the RPI....and the "mediocre conference record" argument another poster made....

Do you reward a mediocre season (.500 or worse) in a major conference over a good season in a mid-major, or sub-major if you will, conference?

Tough call.

I just dont like the East Coast Sports Network's slurping of east coast teams....and Arizona (they have always had a man-crush for Lute Olson).

Originally Posted by tk13

The only argument against Arizona is their big wins (KU, Gonzaga) came at home. You'd rarely ever get Kansas to go play at St. Mary's. Gonzaga had to go to St. Mary's since they're in the same conference... and they only won by 2 points... and Patty Mills was out.

Arizona played 2 non-conference games on the road, that's it. And they lost them both, including a 15 point loss at UNLV.

Big Arizona fan here.

1) No doubt that Arizona didn't earn the right to be in the Tourney.
2) No doubt the 25 year streak played a role in their selection
3) We lost 5 of the last 6 games... win any one of them an we earn the spot we were handed.
4) I don't care, WE'RE IN BABY!!!!

[Ultra Peanut]

HatGuy wrote a column dissing Memphis. Mine eyes have seen the glory!

First, the arguments for the Tigers: They lead the nation in defense, they set an NCAA record for wins over a four-year-period, they went to the championship game last year, they’re on a 25-game winning streak and they’ve won 61 Conference USA games in a row.

And now the killer arguments against them: They’ve never won an NCAA championship, and they belong to a mid-major conference
. . .
But not all won-loss records are created equal. And in Memphis’ case, there are not only the team’s humble conference origins to consider but its own history. To be looked at as a champion, you have to be a champion. And neither Calipari nor Memphis have ever been the ones cutting down the nets after the season’s final game.

Calipari and the Tigers are college basketball’s answer to golf’s Sergio Garcia. He’s the best coach and they’re the best team never to win a championship. Each year’s rankings are supposed to be determined on each year’s record. History isn’t supposed to factor into it. But human brains don’t work that way. If two teams have similar records, we will always rank the one with the grander history ahead of the one with no history.