Chiefs have to play all games on the road?

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

Ah not so much. How many people do you know that get paid for pouting for more money and not working? Union workers get paid by the hour. When they don't work the clock doesn't move either.

Was this a serious question? If so your a grade A dumbass

not entirely true....they receive strike pay...which is a token of what their hourly rate is. No unemployment and no wage, but, they get strike pay. Was that a serious answer? if so, ...........................................

[KcFanNindy]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

not entirely true....they receive strike pay...which is a token of what their hourly rate is. No unemployment and no wage, but, they get strike pay. Was that a serious answer? if so, ...........................................

here is a little bit more info....for the wages a union makes, he usually donates or ( has to pay Union Dues) which is usually 2 hours of hourly pay for union dues which is usually paid monthly (so around $40-50 a month), in turn gets great benefits, good wages, etc.

Part of the union dues goes into a strike fund, in order to get paid the strike fund fees, you have to work the strike line. Thats why you see people walking the lines...i will tell you this it will not be anywhere of the wages that they were making. Each Union is different, but the concept is about the same.

[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

not entirely true....they receive strike pay...which is a token of what their hourly rate is. No unemployment and no wage, but, they get strike pay. Was that a serious answer? if so, ...........................................

For most the strike pay isn't worth sitting on your ass to make a point. Obviously they don't worry about PR at all because in this economic climate with all their benefts that they recieve and now want more they look like some real greedy f*#ks. I'd love to see enough scabs show up to put them out of work permanently. Make them fend for themselves like every other working person in this country has to. They work solely on threats and according to one poster violence against anybody that goes against them. Most people would love to make what some of these guys make for doing the same work. Non-union guys make significantly less for doing the same job, and the union guys still want more.........give it or they'll pout, picket (walking around in circles with a sign) and "do violence" because apparently the barbarians can't come up with any fresh ideas. They use the Mob mentality. Apparently not alot of "thinkers" on that team.

Union guys work their ass off, but their management makes them look very greedy while some of their neighbors are losing their homes because of flat out losing their jobs.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

For most the strike pay isn't worth sitting on your ass to make a point. Obviously they don't worry about PR at all because in this economic climate with all their benefts that they recieve and now want more they look like some real greedy f*#ks. I'd love to see enough scabs show up to put them out of work permanently. Make them fend for themselves like every other working person in this country has to. They work solely on threats and according to one poster violence against anybody that goes against them. Most people would love to make what some of these guys make for doing the same work. Non-union guys make significantly less for doing the same job, and the union guys still want more.........give it or they'll pout, picket (walking around in circles with a sign) and "do violence" because apparently the barbarians can't come up with any fresh ideas. They use the Mob mentality. Apparently not alot of "thinkers" on that team.

Union guys work their ass off, but their management makes them look very greedy while some of their neighbors are losing their homes because of flat out losing their jobs.

In other words, "Stop being greedy. Lay down and take it in the ass".

[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by Brock

In other words, "Stop being greedy. Lay down and take it in the ass".

I can assure you these guys aren't fighting to keep their current salaries. Their fighting to get raises. I've never heard of a Union taking a step back. I could be wrong but I'd like to hear of a time a Union went backwards. My point is simply this......in this climate this looks like complete greed when their neighbors (not "brothers" I grant you) have lost their lively hood and homes.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I can assure you these guys aren't fighting to keep their current salaries. Their fighting to get raises. I've never heard of a Union taking a step back. I could be wrong but I'd like to hear of a time a Union went backwards. My point is simply this......in this climate this looks like complete greed when their neighbors (not "brothers" I grant you) have lost their lively hood and homes.

How can you assure me of anything? You don't know what's going on.

PS, the UAW just got finished "going backwards". They took a paycut.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I can assure you these guys aren't fighting to keep their current salaries. Their fighting to get raises. I've never heard of a Union taking a step back. I could be wrong but I'd like to hear of a time a Union went backwards. My point is simply this......in this climate this looks like complete greed when their neighbors (not "brothers" I grant you) have lost their lively hood and homes.

The auto and airline unions all took pay cuts. Union leverage during economic difficulties gets significantly reduced. If the choice is between the company going under(or in some cases losing a job) the union will have to take a cut to keep the employment.

[Brock]

I'm always amazed to hear people telling other Americans to take whatever crumbs they're offering and smile, especially when we just did a government bailout so that some executives get to keep their houses on the beach. Utterly backward thinking.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

I'm sure that the recently released financial services sales dick will make a great steel worker. Maybe the drive-tru order takers that just got replaced by someone in India? I'm sure that they can hang steel.

Originally Posted by Brock

Why don't you learn to do what they do, and then you won't be unemployed anymore.

Originally Posted by Brock

I'm always amazed to hear people telling other Americans to take whatever crumbs they're offering and smile, especially when we just did a government bailout so that some executives get to keep their houses on the beach. Utterly backward thinking.

The labor chicken hawks are just like their NeoDouche brethren; a lot of talk, a lot of posturing, but no balls in all the world to actually do the things they threaten. Unless of course they send someone else to do it for them.

Sometimes I wish the world and the economy WOULD collapse, so I could go about killing idiots at my leisure.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by Brock

In other words, "Stop being greedy. Lay down and take it in the ass".

I'm curious what you've read/heard/seen that leads you to believe these guys are being asked to spread their cheeks?

All I've heard is that the current agreement is about to expire, and they're not together on the new deal.


It is fact that the UAW had to take a pay cut, but I'll suggest the outragous packages they've leveraged over the companies the past few decades have partially put those same companies in the situations they currently face. I know quite a few guys in different construction related unions, and I can see why they think its a good thing for them as an employee. I've also worked as a "scab" while in HS on a site where an "operator" wouldn't get off of his machine to move something out of his way, and sat for 15 minutes until a laborer showed up to move it.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I'm curious what you've read/heard/seen that leads you to believe these guys are being asked to spread their cheeks?

What makes others around here think this is just the union being greedy?

Which do you think is more likely, the company is trying to **** the workers out of some benefits and the union is saying "No", or the union is willing to put its workers through a strike because of unreasonable demands?

[Mojo Jojo]

Originally Posted by Brock

What makes others around here think this is just the union being greedy?

Which do you think is more likely, the company is trying to **** the workers out of some benefits and the union is saying "No", or the union is willing to put its workers through a strike because of unreasonable demands?

According to the news...the Union wants $2.00 more per hour in the new agreement. The current one expires on March 31.