Connor Barwin planning a visit with the Chiefs

[bdeg]

I think it's ridiculous to group Brown in with Maybin and Barwin when he has the best, most well-developed pass rush moves of any rusher in this draft. And as keg has pointed out, Brown was moved around on FSU's defense. They lined him up inside on some plays, had him rush standing up sometimes, and also had him occasionally drop into coverage.

Of course, I hope you realize I don't want to take Barwin at #3, right?

Dumervil doesn't have the same long-term upside. The same natural tools. You may get the same immediate production, but you're not drafting for potential.

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Originally Posted by bdeg

I think it's ridiculous to group Brown in with Maybin and Barwin when he has the best, most well-developed pass rush moves of any rusher in this draft. And as keg has pointed out, Brown was moved around on FSU's defense. They lined him up inside on some plays, had him rush standing up sometimes, and also had him occasionally drop into coverage.

Of course, I hope you realize I don't want to take Barwin at #3, right?

Dumervil doesn't have the same long-term upside. The same natural tools. You may get the same immediate production, but you're not drafting for potential.

I agree that Brown is better, at this point, than Maybin and Barwin, and does present a player with the potential for immediate production over these two players.

If the Chiefs are looking for that OLB/edge rusher, it comes down to him, Orakpo, Clint Sintim, or Larry English - all who are beasts off the edge and who have shown skills in other facets of the game (something that seems to be the knock on guys like Maybin and Barwin). I know that there are some on this board who aren't high on Orakpo, but he looks to be the guy with the most upside in this group. Big, and could get bigger. Fast, and is immensely strong. This is a guy who would be able to be a full game three down rush end. I'd personally take Orakpo over Brown by a hair based on Orakpo's size and strength. Both are quality players. However, I think that you could get Sintim or English later on in the first round/beginning of the second round and get about the same level of player - maybe more. English played at a smaller school, so his numbers are probably a little more inflated than the others, but he did it year in and year out and is a physical specimen - even more so than Orakpo. However, I think Sintim is the most well rounded of the four and might have the most productive long term future of all of them.

Another one to consider is Paul Kruger, but he's more of a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 LB or 3-4 DE. Absolute monster that never gives up and plays sideline to sideline. One man wrecking crew that looks to be the modern day equivalent to, say, Howie Long. Big frame and carries his weight well on it. He was impossible to stop one on one in the MWC, and every team basically ran the opposite direction from him. Destroyed Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and I really regret that Andre Smith pussed out and didn't show for their matchup.