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Old 04-02-2009, 03:19 PM  
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:35 PM   #406
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So Pioli is less than honest in aquiring both players?
It's a business. If that's what's best for the Chiefs, so be it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:37 PM   #407
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Pioli spends a 2nd on Cassel, secretly hoping Sanchez will be on the board
No need to read further.

Pioli spends a 2nd on Cassel because he's getting excellent value. And he's right, considering other teams were reportedly prepared to offer a mid-1st for Cassel, and we beat them to it.

If Pioli has the opportunity to turn the 34th overall pick into the 18th or 19th overall pick, he's going top do it, regardless of his history with Cassel because it is what is best for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It's pretty obvious that he's at least keeping his options open, otherwise he would have signed Cassel to a long term deal immediately and lowered the cap hit.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, Steve. But I am saying that it does make sense, and I put NOTHING past Pioli. If he has an opportunity to better this team, he's going to take it - however unconventional it may seem.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:37 PM   #408
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Unless they replace their center, right guard and right tackle (I know, Goff may fit in there somewhere) AND get a burner on the outside, I HIGHLY doubt it.
Yes i think they are planing on Goff being the starter at RG.

Thigpen threw 18 and he only started about 2/3 of the year. I'm thinking 23-24 tds 3400 yards. So probably fewer yards, but I think he will throw more than 21 TDs
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:38 PM   #409
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It's gonna be nice to finally win in Denver again after all these years. Thank you, Pioli!!
Easy there VT, don't get ahead of yourself.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #410
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No need to read further.

Pioli spends a 2nd on Cassel because he's getting excellent value. And he's right, considering other teams were reportedly prepared to offer a mid-1st for Cassel, and we beat them to it.

If Pioli has the opportunity to turn the 34th overall pick into the 18th or 19th overall pick, he's going top do it, regardless of his history with Cassel because it is what is best for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It's pretty obvious that he's at least keeping his options open, otherwise he would have signed Cassel to a long term deal immediately and lowered the cap hit.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, Steve. But I am saying that it does make sense, and I put NOTHING past Pioli. If he has an opportunity to better this team, he's going to take it - however unconventional it may seem.
He's going give Denver a QB who he values as 1st or 2nd rounder, to potentially be a thorn in ours side for years?

just don't see it happening, but who knows.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:43 PM   #411
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No need to read further.

Pioli spends a 2nd on Cassel because he's getting excellent value. And he's right, considering other teams were reportedly prepared to offer a mid-1st for Cassel, and we beat them to it.

If Pioli has the opportunity to turn the 34th overall pick into the 18th or 19th overall pick, he's going top do it, regardless of his history with Cassel because it is what is best for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It's pretty obvious that he's at least keeping his options open, otherwise he would have signed Cassel to a long term deal immediately and lowered the cap hit.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, Steve. But I am saying that it does make sense, and I put NOTHING past Pioli. If he has an opportunity to better this team, he's going to take it - however unconventional it may seem.
Exactly.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:43 PM   #412
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He's going give Denver a QB who he values as 1st or 2nd rounder, to potentially be a thorn in ours side for years?

just don't see it happening, but who knows.
Completely agree, this sort of thing just isn't done even by ex-Patriot butt buddies.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:45 PM   #413
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He's going give Denver a QB who he values as 1st or 2nd rounder, to potentially be a thorn in ours side for years?

just don't see it happening, but who knows.
No one said anything about having to trade either QB to Denver. He could easily as trade Cassel to Tampa Bay, New York or Minnesota.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:46 PM   #414
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No one said anything about having to trade either QB to Denver. He could easily as trade Cassel to Tampa Bay, New York or Minnesota.
If Pioli wants Sanchez, I would like this approach much better. I wouldn't give the donks the sweat off my _____.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:46 PM   #415
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:47 PM   #416
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He's going give Denver a QB who he values as 1st or 2nd rounder, to potentially be a thorn in ours side for years?

just don't see it happening, but who knows.
Again, the patriots deal in division all the time. Whatever is best for their team. They just make sure they get the good end of the stick.
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Take a look at who you have on your team, how bad they were last year, then tell me where you think you can run smack at any other team.
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Take a look at who you have on your team, how bad they were last year, then tell me where you think you can run smack at any other team.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:52 PM   #419
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So I turn on ESPNnews and the first thing I see is Mark Schelerth talking about how the Bears Oline sucks so Cutler will suck..

This guy literally thinks that offensive lineman mean more than franchise QB's do I watched him argue that the Lions should take Jason Smith the other day...
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:52 PM   #420
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Take a look at who you have on your team, how bad they were last year, then tell me where you think you can run smack at any other team.
True, but in all fairness, VP - we split with you last year (one of our TWO wins) and you just gave away the closest thing you've had to replacing John Elway.

I mean FFS. You guys have had an Oakland-like offseason. You know the one - where we all point and laugh.
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