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Old 04-02-2009, 03:19 PM  
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:11 PM   #436
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If Pioli can't effectively evaluate a QB he drafted and spent 4-5 years with, then he'll be a failure here. Either Pioli is incompetent, or Cassel will be pretty damn good.
Exactly.

If Cassel fails, it wasn't the Cassel move that was the blunder. It was the PIOLI move that was the blunder.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:11 PM   #437
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I'm still saying that Cassel move is something that we'll look back on in 3 or 4 years as a blunder.
I have the same fear, but hold out hope that I'm wrong.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:12 PM   #438
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I have the same fear, but hold out hope that I'm wrong.
That's the biggest difference between you and Mecca.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:13 PM   #439
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I'm still saying that Cassel move is something that we'll look back on in 3 or 4 years as a blunder.
Wait a minute, Cassel played for USC that can't be right.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:13 PM   #440
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The Broncos got two first rounders, a 3rd rounder and a player for a player and a 5th rounder.

In no way, shape or form did they get "bent over".
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:14 PM   #441
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I'm thinking the odds are pretty good, considering he alienated his franchise QB the moment he was announced as HC.

"Don't worry, Jay. We'll keep the offensive staff."

*fires offensive staff*

"Don't worry, Jay. The offense will stay the same."

*changes offense*

"Don't worry, Jay. You're my QB."

*is on the phone trying to trade for Matt Cassell*
Well, we'll see. Seeing as how I've been forced into being a half-assed Cutler fan I hope he turns out OK. If he succeeds in Chicago, as long as it doesn't come at the expense of the Chiefs, I'll be happy.

I just don't see it happening.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:14 PM   #442
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Exactly.

If Cassel fails, it wasn't the Cassel move that was the blunder. It was the PIOLI move that was the blunder.
Cassel doesn't have to fail for this to be a blunder.

If Stafford or Sanchez, or both, develop into top 5-6 QBs in the NFL, and Cassel is just an average QB, then it's blunder in my book.

I personally think that there's a good chance that is exactly what will happen.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:15 PM   #443
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Wow, I've missed a couple of hundred posts.

Is Mecca still smarter than McDaniels and everybody else in football?
At this point, it's pretty safe to say that everyone else in football is smarter than McDaniels.

You have two things:

1) The #2 ranked offense that achieved such a ranking with no running game last year
2) The #30 ranked defense

Your first move is to try and get rid of the most important player on your team, the guy who got that back-less offense to #2, for a guy who is older, more expensive, less talented, less experienced, and locked up for a shorter term.

If we dredged Fredo Corleone out of the lake, his water-bloated corpse would call up McDaniels and say

"Look at this. Look at how stupid you are."
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:15 PM   #444
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They got an 18, the equivalent of a second rounder this year, a third rounder and a career backup for a BONAFIDE ****ING FRANCHISE QB and a fifth rounder. They got bent over.
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Cassel doesn't have to fail for this to be a blunder.

If Stafford or Sanchez, or both, develop into top 5-6 QBs in the NFL, and Cassel is just an average QB, then it's blunder in my book.

I personally think that there's a good chance that is exactly what will happen.
This.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:17 PM   #446
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Cassel doesn't have to fail for this to be a blunder.

If Stafford or Sanchez, or both, develop into top 5-6 QBs in the NFL, and Cassel is just an average QB, then it's blunder in my book.

I personally think that there's a good chance that is exactly what will happen.
Precisely. I don't think that Cassel will stink up the joint, far from it. I just see it as very likely that one or both of these two QBs become very, very good.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:18 PM   #447
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They got an 18, the equivalent of a second rounder this year, a third rounder and a career backup for a BONAFIDE ****ING FRANCHISE QB and a fifth rounder. They got bent over.
Name me a recent trade where a team got more for a player. It's certainly possible I've overlooked one, but nothing comes to mind.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:18 PM   #449
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Precisely. I don't think that Cassel will stink up the joint, far from it. I just see it as very likely that one or both of these two QBs become very, very good.
Well, it is likely that we would have only had a chance at one of them anyway. If Stafford goes #1 and is great, then it doesn't matter.
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