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Old 04-07-2009, 02:06 PM  
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Your Top 5 picks for the #3 overall.
Who do you want the Chiefs to take with the #3 overall?

Seriously. I want you to see what ChiefsPlanet regards as elite, #3 talent.

All choices are welcome here. This is just me picking your brain. This thread is largely debate-free.

Thanks in advance for the honesty.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:14 AM   #76
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:18 AM   #77
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See? Texas sucks. The University of Texas sucks. Players who play football for the University of Texas suck. Well, when they aren't winning awards like the Hendricks, Lombardi, Nagurski and Willis Trophies, and, shit, even then they suck. Especially when they are 6'3", 265 lb., bench 500, squat 600, run a 40 in 4.63 and get 11.5 sacks against a ballbag conference of spread monkeys like the Big 12. That is, hands down, some flat out, serious suckage. I ****ing hate prospects that suck this much.

And let's draft McCoy! You know some dumbass NFL team is going to want him and when we draft him, then we can parlay Cassel, St. Sanchez or McCoy (whoever isn't our QBOTF that season) to whoever wants to give us the most fifth round picks for their QBOTF! Hold that ****in' draft HOSTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim Tebow scored lots of points against a tough set of SEC defenses. Tebow > Sanchez, right?

Just look at the history of Texas players. When Derrick Johnson is one of your pro "successes" in the past few years, then YES, your school sucks at producing players who have success in the NFL
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:22 AM   #78
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Good God, man. Wells and Oher? You'd rather have Wells and Oher on your team than either top QB in this draft?

You've got to be playing a joke just to get a rise out of us, ala Demonpenz. There's no other way. There's no way anybody is this reeruned.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:25 AM   #79
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Good God, man. Wells and Oher? You'd rather have Wells and Oher on your team than either top QB in this draft?

You've got to be playing a joke just to get a rise out of us, ala Demonpenz. There's no other way. There's no way anybody is this reeruned.
Yeah, because pissing away that pick on another quarterback when we just got Cassel is the epitome of football genius. If that's a smart football move, then I guess I'm a ****ing reerun in this little opposite world you got going here.
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Yeah, because pissing away that pick on another quarterback when we just got Cassel is the epitome of football genius. If that's a smart football move, then I guess I'm a ****ing reerun in this little opposite world you got going here.
Chris Wells and Michael Oher.

This is your "objective truth" you're claiming. Beanie Wells and Michael ****ing Oher.

Yes, you're ****ing stupid.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:30 AM   #81
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He doesn't understand the value of the QB position....

But on another note if you want to talk about that Texas thing, give me Texas players that have succeeded in the NFL in the Mack Brown era.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:40 AM   #82
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I'll play along and argue with you, Sackofgoo.

Drafting a QB is smart because:

1) VALUE. The talent/draft position ratio heavily favors one of these two QBs this year.

2) We can do it. We have the money to pay Cassel for a year and have him start. If it works out, then great. If not, then we needed a new QB anyway, and luckily we grabbed one of these two guys, who are INFINITELY better than the QB class in next year's draft.

3) After years of Gannon, Grbac, Bono, hell, even Montana in his old age, don't you think this franchise deserves a QB that the rest of the NFL fears? We arguably have never had one. It's about ****ing time to get one. Cassel (according to even his supporters) is NOT that guy.

There. That's my reasoning. Tell me why Michael Oher makes more sense. Where will he play? RT? LT? G? WR? We have to move Albert if he plays LT. We're getting ****ed if we put him in at RT.

But GOD, at least we didn't PISS AWAY another pick on a damn QB, especially a Latino guy who plays for USC!!!!!!! (your words, not mine, btw)
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:42 AM   #83
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Casey Hampton...good player from Texas under Mack Brown.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:46 AM   #84
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Casey Hampton...good player from Texas under Mack Brown.
And we have 1...

We should do the list, good, disappointing, total busts.
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Old 04-08-2009, 12:47 AM   #85
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Drafted to be a stud LT that would anchor the Cardinals' line. Is now a guard for the Cowboys.

I'd call that a disappointment.
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Tim Tebow scored lots of points against a tough set of SEC defenses. Tebow > Sanchez, right?
Two national championships and a Heisman say yes. Because, at this point, that's all you've got to go on. Besides, I hear that Florida is going to be running pro sets this season and have been working on Tebows release. We'll see. Until both play in the NFL and establish themselves, it's hard to judge other than guess. I think Sanchez is an excellent pro prospect, but he doesn't give you anything that Cassel doesn't other than being smaller, less athletic, substantially less experience, has had minor injury problems and will take a few years to understand and play effectively in the NFL. I'd take Cassel over Sanchez or Stafford in a heart beat because of that. He gives the Chiefs a young quarterback that can step in a play right now. Neither Stafford or Sanchez provide that, and neither has anything that Cassel can't provide better at this point.

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Okie dokie, let's look at the last ten years:

1998: No UT player drafted in the first round
1999: Ricky Williams - Dope smoker deluxe, but the dude could run and run well.
2000: No UT player drafted in first round
2001: Leonard Davis & Casey Hampton - Both Pro Bowlers
2002: Mike Williams & Quentin Jammer - Williams a bust, Jammer has started every game but two for the past six seasons for the Chargers
2003: No UT player drafted in first round
2004: Roy Williams & Marcus Tubbs - Williams in the Pro Bowl; Tubbs a bust out of the league.
2005: Cedric Benson & Derrick Johnson - Benson put up his most productive season last season, and Johnson has been the Chiefs starting LB since he was drafted
2006: Vince Young & Michael Huff - Young looked good for a bit, then snap. Jury is still out. Huff started every game first two seasons, then got benched five games into last season.
2007: Michael Griffin & Aaron Ross - Griffin started all games last season, and ended up with 75 tackles, 11 pdf and seven interceptions. Looks to be a stud. Ross started 15 games last season, 52 tackles, 8 pdf, 3 interceptions and a td on one of those.
2008: No UT player taken in the first round.

Doesn't look all that bad to me. A couple of Pro Bowl guys, a bunch of solid players and starters and just two certified busts. Seems like the UT boys have actually done pretty good. So, what's the problem again with Texas players?
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Leonard Davis went to the Pro Bowl last year. I don't know what your definition of bust is, but that isn't mine.
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Drafted to be a stud LT that would anchor the Cardinals' line. Is now a guard for the Cowboys.

I'd call that a disappointment.
He was an All Pro in 2007.
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If your top 5 pick LT become a guard, that sucks period.

It's funny to see it argued any other way.
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