Your Top 5 picks for the #3 overall.

Chiefnj2 · 04-08-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

If Cassel was still with the Patriots as we near the draft... as through history most franchised players would be at this time... and we would have aquired his services say a day or two before the draft, I might be more inclined to agree with you on the common sense thing.

However, 1 day into the Free Agency/Trading period is pretty unique for players moving teams for draft picks in this scenario.

Nothing is going to shock me... at leat I don't think it will... on draft day. That would include drafting a QB at #3 and keeping Cassel, drafting a QB at #3 and trading Cassel, or not drafting a QB at all and going with Cassel.

If it winds up being option 3, five years from now I will be much more disappointed if a Sanchez/Stafford selection would have been the route to go long term, and we missed out on either option 1 or 2.

There will be more draft picks and more drafts to fill out the roster. Super Bowl franchise QB types are very hard to find. LB's and O-linemen not so much.

I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.

Coogs · 04-08-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.

I could see a 1 year tutor situation.

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.

I would be too.

But I wouldn't at all be shocked if the Chiefs took Sanchez and TRADED Cassel, or even traded Sanchez.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-08-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'd be shocked if KC takes Sanchez at #3 and keeps Cassel.

I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.

Coogs · 04-08-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.

Yep!

And that includes drafting an OT at #3. I wouldn't be very excited about the pick... would rather that be part of a trade down scenario... but I won't be stunned if Monroe is the pick. Especially since that selection seems to be picking up steam with the pundits.

Chiefnj2 · 04-08-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

A new GM asking an owner to pay someone 15 million to babysit for one year is pretty far fetched.

**The Franchise** · 04-08-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

A new GM asking an owner to pay someone 15 million to babysit for one year is pretty far fetched.

Not when you have $50 million in cap space and you have to get up the minimum amount spent.

Chiefnj2 · 04-08-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Not when you have $50 million in cap space and you have to get up the minimum amount spent.

Spend money on guys that have a chance of being on the team when it is ready to make a run, or waste it on a guy you plan on flipping in one year?? Tough one. NO GM wants to waste 15 million dollars.

RustShack · 04-08-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Spend money on guys that have a chance of being on the team when it is ready to make a run, or waste it on a guy you plan on flipping in one year?? Tough one. NO GM wants to waste 15 million dollars.

It wouldn't be wasted... Cassel would be our starting QB for the year...

Coogs · 04-08-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Spend money on guys that have a chance of being on the team when it is ready to make a run, or waste it on a guy you plan on flipping in one year?? Tough one. NO GM wants to waste 15 million dollars.

What guys are left out there that are worth spending big money on for more than one season? Peppers is going to cost draft picks. Holt? Any players on our own roster that should be given contract extentions? You have to be careful with setting presidence with the last one.

crazycoffey · 04-08-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

A new GM asking an owner to pay someone 15 million to babysit for one year is pretty far fetched.

I think it's an effort of fair trade between the new GM and his new boss.

"let me bring in my guy, we pay heavier than I really want at this time, but if he does well, we can trade/sign him later." It's realistic, leaves options options open, and betters the team, more than signing matt to a long term deal and having something bad happen.

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

A new GM asking an owner to pay someone 15 million to babysit for one year is pretty far fetched.

Well, NOT signing him to a new deal after they traded for him is also pretty far-fetched, considering I couldn't find one example of it every happening before.

crazycoffey · 04-08-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.

I concur, in fact - we should be able to unite under this thought. Pioli is bringing many options to the table for draft day, this season, and building options for next season already. I personally, love it

**dirk digler** · 04-08-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I honestly wouldn't be shocked by anything Pioli does.

I'm still not convinced he didn't trade for Cassel to get through 2009, let a young QB sit for a year, then trade Cassel in 2010.

Or, as mentioned, they could pick one of the QB's and trade Cassel on draft day.

They could pick one of the QB's and trade THEM on draft day.

He could take a non-QB at #3.

He could trade down.

Nothing would surprise me.

I agree and the days leading up to the draft is going to be exciting.

With that said I wouldn't read too much into the Chiefs not signing Cassel to an extension. The current CBA is about to expire and there will be a strike so I am sure that plays into it plus in those other examples those teams needed to get cap space so a renegoitated deal makes sense. The Chiefs are probably at the minimum required cap space so the urgency isn't there to get a deal done plus they can always franchise him next year again.

htismaqe · 04-08-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

With that said I wouldn't read too much into the Chiefs not signing Cassel to an extension. The current CBA is about to expire and there will be a strike so I am sure that plays into it plus in those other examples those teams needed to get cap space so a renegoitated deal makes sense. The Chiefs are probably at the minimum required cap space so the urgency isn't there to get a deal done plus they can always franchise him next year again.

By the same token, we should read too LITTLE into the Chiefs not signing him to a deal.

This idea that Cassel is the starting QB and there's no other possibility is absurd and will be absurd until the day he signs.