Chiefs Chiefs sign Zach Thomas - Page 7

phisherman · 04-11-2009, 08:07 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...y/1137526.html

The Chiefs have agreed to terms with linebacker Zach Thomas.

Thomas, 35, is a 13-year veteran who started 14 games for the Dallas Cowboys last season and has made 20.5 career sacks. He spent the first 12 years of his career with the Miami Dolphins.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-11-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBOSS1

I really don't understand this......at all.

It's that hard to understand that we needed linebackers?

I mean, I don't get the harm in signing a player like Thomas for one year.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I really don't see why DJ couldn't play outside in the 3-4. He was one of the few rushing linebackers that we had over the last few years. He kicked the piss out of Rivers consistently in SD 2 years ago.

I don't think this rules Curry out at all. They aren't going to rule someone out just because of a one-year signing.

I'm not a big believer that BJ Raji is the answer at 3. I question his attitude, and work ethic once he cashes in.

Because he isn't a rushbacker and he doesn't like taking on blocks...

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Move McBride to backup UT, Johnston to backup RE Hali to LE, Tank to backup NT and Vrable to RE you might have something for the 4-3 DL.

They're going to be a hybrid team there are going to be guys who have roles in both schemes and some guys who only play in 1...I seriously doubt Vrabel would be on the field in any 4-3 looks.

MVChiefFan · 04-11-2009, 08:57 PM

I think we obviously need to trade down to take Raji. But, how far back could we go and still have a realistic shot at him?

**The Bad Guy** · 04-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The Derrick Johnson not playing outside probably has to do with a 3-4 OLB when rushing isn't going to come free he's going to get an OT and this is a guy that doesn't like to deal with blockers and now he has to beat an OT with pass rush moves.

DJ put his hand on the ground plenty during the 07 season. I thought honestly it was some of the best football he's played in his career.

Direckshun · 04-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Move McBride to backup UT, Johnston to backup RE Hali to LE, Tank to backup NT and Vrable to RE you might have something for the 4-3 DL.

Noooo no no no no no.

Your D line is way too small.

Tank is small for a NT. He's "only" 300. He's athletic and strong enough to be a DE. McBride is a perfect example of a 3-4 DE. He may flourish. Boone may work out at DE, too.

Hali is more questionable. He is a tweener in this system, and so is Johnston, who probably won't survive cuts this year because he doesn't fit.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-11-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I really don't see why DJ couldn't play outside in the 3-4. He was one of the few rushing linebackers that we had over the last few years. He kicked the piss out of Rivers consistently in SD 2 years ago.

I don't think this rules Curry out at all. They aren't going to rule someone out just because of a one-year signing.

I'm not a big believer that BJ Raji is the answer at 3. I question his attitude, and work ethic once he cashes in.

The problem is that 3-4 OLBs are 260 lbs. and up. DJ is not a guy you want consistently in the trenches. He's a smaller LB whose strength is in coverage and in moving around the field.

Most 3-4 OLBs are former DEs that convert to OLB. Rarely do OLBs convert to 3-4 DE. That's why Curry would not fare well as a 3-4 OLB either.

DJ should make a terrific 3-4 ILB, however. What's interesting is, though, that if you have a coverage guy on the inside, you usually have a run-stuffer right next to him. Zach Thomas isn't that guy. I'm curious to see if they both start at the same time. Because it seems like they'd be playing the same role.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

DJ put his hand on the ground plenty during the 07 season. I thought honestly it was some of the best football he's played in his career.

I don't think it's a great idea unless it's a certain passing situation, I'd hate to see him outside in a 3-4 on a run play I don't think it would end well for him.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-11-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Give me all your phone numbers and I'll call and tell all you dumbasses to shut the **** up.

Rep!

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Noooo no no no no no.

Your D line is way too small.

Tank is small for a NT. He's "only" 300. He's athletic and strong enough to be a DE. McBride is a perfect example of a 3-4 DE. He may flourish. Boone may work out at DE, too.

Hali is more questionable. He is a tweener in this system, and so is Johnston, who probably won't survive cuts this year because he doesn't fit.

I'm going to throw it out there so take it for what its worth... but McBride said on facebook hes going to be an OLB in our 3-4 so thats why I'm assuming he would be in the Matt Roth role...

But you really think Vrable-Dorsey-Raji-Hali is too small? that seems about right to me... besides maybe Vrable but we don't have many other options...

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-11-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Every draft analyst on NFL Network called Barwin a 3rd round talent who will likely go in the 2nd round because of his combine.

He's a smart athlete too the guy played TE and was on the Cincinnati basketball team for a while. Guys like that have a very very high ceiling,and he registered good production through the season.Those same analysts said if he did this for another year in the college ranks he'd be a sure fire 1st round pick.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-11-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I'm going to throw it out there so take it for what its worth... but McBride said on facebook hes going to be an OLB in our 3-4 so thats why I'm assuming he would be in the Matt Roth role...

That makes no sense. He was one of the few 3-4 DE's we had.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I'm going to throw it out there so take it for what its worth... but McBride said on facebook hes going to be an OLB in our 3-4 so thats why I'm assuming he would be in the Matt Roth role...

That just sounds like a really horrible idea.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

He's a smart athlete too the guy played TE and was on the Cincinnati basketball team for a while. Guys like that have a very very high ceiling,and he registered good production through the season.Those same analysts said if he did this for another year in the college ranks he'd be a sure fire 1st round pick.

Like Matt Jones? That worked out well.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That makes no sense. He was one of the few 3-4 DE's we had.

Hes actually not really tall enough to be a 3-4 DE and most are heavier than him too... I still think DE is his best place though since hes a DE/DT tweener..

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