Chiefs Falcons after Gonzalez - Page 4

The Poz · 04-12-2009, 10:29 AM

Sorry if re-post, didn't see it anywhere.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1331

The Falcons are reportedly interested in trading for Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez.
The National Football Post's Michael Lombardi says the Falcons are "seriously considering" the option, with their second-round pick as bait. Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt is attached to his franchise icon, but he might be convinced to part ways as the team rebuilds.

Atlanta has the 55th pick in the second. Maybe Jarron Gilbert or Paul Kruger although I'd rather see Tony stick it out here.

melbar · 04-12-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis

I think the days of this mentality are over.

Thank God.

Still extremely productive. If there was a serious decline in ability thats one thing. Why "thank God" for disloyalty to a productive hard working part of the organization.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-12-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

This is why a wannabe like you isn't a GM.

Pioli has NO reason to trade Gonzalez. Matt Cassel is his price acquisition...Tony Gonzalez has shown he's a GREAT option for a QB...he has only gotten better with age. Scott Pioli has shown he wants veterans on the team...Tony Gonzalez is probably the best player on our roster...Tony Gonzalez makes his QB better...we need Matt Cassel to be a franchise QB.

Like I said...the only way Pioli trades TG is for a WOW offer...fortunately, the Chiefs have all of the leverage against the Falcons. If they want Gonzalez, they can give us a 2nd and 5th.

If not, I'm sure Pioli will be ok with a guy who plays the way Tony does on Sunday's...

Holy Jesus.

You wonder why people think you're a reerun.

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Going to have to be a WOW offer...

So now a 2nd and a 5th is that WOW offer?

A SECOND AND A FIFTH.

Yeah, I'm really wowed by the addition of that 5th round pick.

Crush · 04-12-2009, 11:22 AM

Also, winning 10 games should not be the goal of this team. The goal of this team is to win a Super Bowl. Anything else and you are a loser. Only one team comes out as a winner for the year. I want the Chiefs to be that winner. I'm tired of the Chiefs being grouped together with the 31 other losers.

If Atlanta is willing to give up their 2nd round pick, then so be it. See you later, California pretty boy, you never liked KC to begin with. GTFO

**DeezNutz** · 04-12-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

what makes you think we can't win 10 games next year? All we need is a pass rush...the offense will be there.

This has to be a bullshit post to try to stir the pot.

I'm not biting.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-12-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This has to be a bullshit post to try to stir the pot.

I'm not biting.

No, he does this every year.

IIRC, either last year or the year before, he thought we'd win 11.

**DeezNutz** · 04-12-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Still extremely productive. If there was a serious decline in ability thats one thing. Why "thank God" for disloyalty to a productive hard working part of the organization.

Disloyalty?

I hate the mindset that we "owe" players like Gonzo anything. He's been well paid by the organization and cheered by the fans. That's enough.

No one owes him shit, yet when he opens his pie hole, people start fumbling all over themselves to praise and comfort him.

As I've said numerous times, I don't give a **** about any single player on this team. It's about the organization as a whole for me.

Crush · 04-12-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Why "thank God" for disloyalty to a productive hard working part of the organization.

This is a business. The Chiefs want to win a Super Bowl. We want them to win a Super Bowl. However, the NFL does not give out trophies or rings for being sentimental.

chiefs1111 · 04-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Im sorry but with our schedule there is now way we win 10 games this year. Maybe we could go 7-9 this season,and thats a BIG maybe... more likely 5-11

Hootie · 04-12-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Holy Jesus.

You wonder why people think you're a reerun.

So now a 2nd and a 5th is that WOW offer?

A SECOND AND A FIFTH.

Yeah, I'm really wowed by the addition of that 5th round pick.

Relax guy.

I'm only saying I don't think Pioli pulls the trigger for just a 2nd round pick.

Maybe a 2nd and a player...I don't know. I don't see why Pioli NEEDS to make a deal...giving the Chiefs all of the leverage.

What's the worst thing that can happen? We have to suffer another two years of 100 receptions and 1,000+ receiving yards? Oh no!

"BUT HE WON'T BE ON THE TEAM WHEN WE'RE COMPETING FOR A SUPER BOWL!!!!"

Boo-****ing-hoo for him! He'll be an integral part in the development of our QB...and I'm ok with that. I know that it doesn't give you something to jerk off to during the draft...but chances are we'd land a decent starter at best in the 2nd round...so who gives a shit?

What's the success rate of a player making a pro bowl at the bottom of the 2nd round? 10%?

I'll take one, two or three years of high quality play from a great receiving tight end who will help our QB succeed over a late 2nd round pick that probably won't be anything better than Kawika Mitchell.

Frankie · 04-12-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If Pioli is signing guys like Zach Thomas and trading for guys like Mike Vrabel, what makes you think he's interested in trading Tony Gonzalez?

It's going to have to be a WOW offer for them to trade Tony Gonzalez...

#55 overall isn't a WOW offer. Sorry drafturbators, it's clear Pioli is trying to build a contender with veteran presence...the Herm Edwards 25 and under only approach isn't the Pioli way. Gonzalez has a reasonable contract and is showing no signs of slowing down...he's not going to be traded IMO.

This.

**DeezNutz** · 04-12-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, he does this every year.

IIRC, either last year or the year before, he thought we'd win 11.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-12-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Disloyalty?

I hate the mindset that we "owe" players like Gonzo anything. He's been well paid by the organization and cheered by the fans. That's enough.

No one owes him shit, yet when he opens his pie hole, people start fumbling all over themselves to praise and comfort him.

As I've said numerous times, I don't give a **** about any single player on this team. It's about the organization as a whole for me.

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Originally Posted by Crush

This is a business. The Chiefs want to win a Super Bowl. We want them to win a Super Bowl. However, the NFL does not give out trophies or rings for being sentimental.

THESE.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-12-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, and he runs around here proud of it.

Frankie · 04-12-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

He drafted Blackledge. Admittedly, he was smarter than Peterson since he only used a second-rounder, but still....

Mr. Rain Man is a Football Encyclopedia.

Hootie · 04-12-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, he does this every year.

IIRC, either last year or the year before, he thought we'd win 11.

Oh well **** me.

God forbid I have high hopes for a team I cheer for! Damn me straight to hell!

Don't mind me, drafturbating know-it-alls, I don't want to get in the middle of your 'my god this team is full of holes' circle jerk...by all means, keep going with your awesome theories on how to trade all of our great players for draft picks every year...maybe we can trade Cassel for a 2011 1st round pick...and then Bowe!

Yeah! Lets just ****ing trade everything valuable on our roster every year so we can have as many draft picks as possible! WINNING THE DRAFT > WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES!

04-12-2009, 10:29 AM
The Poz Enjoyer of things Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Casino cash: $10012210	Falcons after Gonzalez Sorry if re-post, didn't see it anywhere. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1331 The Falcons are reportedly interested in trading for Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez. The National Football Post's Michael Lombardi says the Falcons are "seriously considering" the option, with their second-round pick as bait. Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt is attached to his franchise icon, but he might be convinced to part ways as the team rebuilds. Atlanta has the 55th pick in the second. Maybe Jarron Gilbert or Paul Kruger although I'd rather see Tony stick it out here.
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04-12-2009, 11:22 AM	#48
Crush Amateur Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $2367091	Also, winning 10 games should not be the goal of this team. The goal of this team is to win a Super Bowl. Anything else and you are a loser. Only one team comes out as a winner for the year. I want the Chiefs to be that winner. I'm tired of the Chiefs being grouped together with the 31 other losers. If Atlanta is willing to give up their 2nd round pick, then so be it. See you later, California pretty boy, you never liked KC to begin with. GTFO
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04-12-2009, 11:26 AM	#53
chiefs1111 In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-2196834	Im sorry but with our schedule there is now way we win 10 games this year. Maybe we could go 7-9 this season,and thats a BIG maybe... more likely 5-11
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