Would you trade down with the Bengals for less than face value?

[Coogs]

The Bengals seem to be targeting an OT. If the Lions go Stafford and the Rams go with Smith, If the Bengals (11 total picks) called and offered their #6 pick worth 1600 points, a 3rd (they have two 3rds), pick #70 worth 240 points, and maybe a 6th (they have two 6ths) pick 179 worth 20 points?

Then at pick #6, I would think more trade down options would be available, as trading up to the #6 spot is not as daunting of a task as moving up to #3.

Except a little less to gain more leverage in the draft so to speak.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's no way we're trading out of the #3 spot WITHOUT getting a 1st next year. Hell, I would be surprised if we got a 2nd this year AND a 1st next year.

It's just my opinion, but I don't see alot of scenarios where we don't get a 1st next year.

This is how I see it. If you're leaving the top 5 you should get a #1 next year.

I'd rather have that anyway, next year could be a great year to get some great defensive players.

[Micjones]

No reason to take the shaft just to move down.
Get good value (chart or no chart) or stay put.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Micjones

No reason to take the shaft just to move down.
Get good value (chart or no chart) or stay put.

Then again, you're stuck with one player instead of two with equal value.

That makes no sense for a roster in such dire need of quality football players.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Micjones

No reason to take the shaft just to move down.
Get good value (chart or no chart) or stay put.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then again, you're stuck with one player instead of two with equal value.

That makes no sense for a roster in such dire need of quality football players.

I think what should be done, and what Pioli will do, is determine pre-draft what the least he's willing to take is.

You have to find a happy medium.

Yes, 2 players would help us more than one. But moving down to the middle of the 1st and then only getting a mid-late 2nd out of the deal is giving too much away, IMO.

I know we're not going to get full value, and I'm OK with that. But we need to find that happy medium and not give the pick away.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think what should be done, and what Pioli will do, is determine pre-draft what the least he's willing to take is.

You have to find a happy medium.

Yes, 2 players would help us more than one. But moving down to the middle of the 1st and then only getting a mid-late 2nd out of the deal is giving too much away, IMO.

I know we're not going to get full value, and I'm OK with that. But we need to find that happy medium and not give the pick away.

The way I look at it is this:

Would I rather have Curry with a huge contract or DHB/Nicks and Mack/Unger? Wouldn't my football team be better off with those two players?

The offensive lineman are equally adept at their position as Curry and the WR's would just be a nice added bonus.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The way I look at it is this:

Would I rather have Curry with a huge contract or DHB/Nicks and Mack/Unger? Wouldn't my football team be better off with those two players?

That's best case scenario, assuming those players would even be available when we pick.

But to answer the question, yes.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's best case scenario, assuming those players would even be available when we pick.

But to answer the question, yes.

Well, right.

It depends on the offer. If the Chiefs received the Eagles #21 & #28 (and maybe a 5th), they'd could easily get two quality players instead of one.

If they traded with Denver, they'd be in even better shape. It all depends on the scenario.

Since the talent level in the Top Ten is equal to the bottom ten, it makes all the sense in the world for the Chiefs to trade back and get what they can, regardless of the "value chart".

Think about that, guys. "Value chart". The best "value" would be two players of equal ability.

2>1.

[suds79]

I would absolutely be willing to trade down even if we didn't get exactly face value back.

When you factor in cost, there's not a player I wouldn't rather have at #15 or so than #3 for the $$ and the possibility to add draft picks.

- Curry? Eh give me Rey at the lower $$.
- Monroe? Eh give me Oher instead to play RT.
- Raji? Nah not at 3. Look for someone else or begin to target Cody next year.
- Crabtree? No thanks. Not super fast and not that big. I'll take Harvin to compliment Bowe later on.

on & on.

[Mecca]

Man when you factor in who else is in next years draft I'd rather not have to target Cody.

[eazyb81]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...o4I4nKFp2fc%3D

Mayock says the trade value chart is completely out the window this year.

Sat in on the first hour of a media conference call this afternoon with NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, who offered two bold statements regarding teams that hold top-10 picks this year:

They're all looking to get rid of those picks, and they're willing to accept less -- perhaps as a little as half -- of the value the standard trade chart dictates.

"Every team in the top 10 is looking to trade out," Mayock said. "Never seen it, never seen the situation quite this heavy. And the theory is, everybody knows we’re upside-down right now with this draft. The rookies are getting paid way too much money proportionate to their value. So, teams are scared to death of missing (in) the top-10.

"Here’s what happening, though, that I think is really interesting, and I’m anxious to see if this trend plays out. That whole trade chart that all the teams used to use, it began to go out the window last year, and I think, like the economy, it’s completely out the window now. So, I think any team in the top 10 that is looking to get out will listen to any reasonable offer, and more than ever, teams are looking to get down (to picks) 15 to 25, because you can get the same kind of player at (No.) 20 as you can at (No.) 7, and you pay one-third the money."

[kcchiefsus]

Considering the report that teams are throwing out the draft trade value chart this year and I would say hell yes. I would do whatever it takes to move down and get additional picks. There is simply not a single player I can see worth taking at the #3 pick and paying $60 million to. It would be different if we didn't already have Branden Albert but we do have him so we are left with a pick with very little positional value to choose from.

Unlike Carl Peterson, I feel that Scott Pioli is not so arrogant that he would refuse a trade just because he felt he was getting screwed over. He will do what is best for the team.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...o4I4nKFp2fc%3D

Mayock says the trade value chart is completely out the window this year.

DaneMcCloud has been saying the same exact thing since January.

I guess he reads the 'Planet.