Chiefs Defensive Line - Page 9

chuxtrux · 04-17-2009, 12:40 PM

If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:52 PM

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The only comparison I saw to Freeney was the injury comparison.

Why even use that comparison? Hali has never been that productive and if playing through injury means you literally can't do anything you shouldn't play.

I've seen that excuse for Hali so many times now, "Oh well he's injured". If he gets hurt that often that's a problem.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:53 PM

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I got a personal insult already, see how much I rule?

Just so you know 99% of this forum would be overjoyed if Tamba Hali never played another down for the Chiefs.

And you were bringing up Dwight Freeney of all people saying "oh he's like this"

no he wasnt, he said that they had the same INJURY

bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:53 PM

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I DO

Me too. Next year will probably be another year of learning, but I think he has the tools.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:54 PM

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no he wasnt, he said that they had the same INJURY

I'd also like to know what the same injury was since Freeneys production has really fallen off since he had the lis franc foot injury.

Just Passin' By · 04-17-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why even use that comparison? Hali has never been that productive and if playing through injury means you literally can't do anything you shouldn't play.

I've seen that excuse for Hali so many times now, "Oh well he's injured". If he gets hurt that often that's a problem.

When an injury is similar, or has a similar impact, why wouldn't you use the comparison, as long as you're talking about the injury and not the players themeselves? Reading comprehension is the responsibility of the reader, not the poster.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:55 PM

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I'd also like to know what the same injury was since Freeneys production has really fallen off since he had the lis franc foot injury.

he had a down year which is what guardian said

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:55 PM

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Me too. Next year will probably be another year of learning, but I think he has the tools.

i really like tank always have i hope he keeps on keepin on

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

When an injury is similar, or has a similar impact, why wouldn't you use the comparison, as long as you're talking about the injury and not the players themeselves? Reading comprehension is the responsibility of the reader, not the poster.

He also went into this big spiel of, Hali and Freeney are players that will play through injuries and hurt their production and this and that.

If a guy is so injured he literally can not do anything, he shouldn't be playing.

beach tribe · 04-17-2009, 06:57 PM

I'm gonna give everyone a chance to play some in the new D before I label anyone teh great, or teh suck.

**SAUTO** · 04-17-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He also went into this big spiel of, Hali and Freeney are players that will play through injuries and hurt their production and this and that.

If a guy is so injured he literally can not do anything, he shouldn't be playing.

he also said that freeney had a year with 3.5 sacks injured

kcxiv · 04-17-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He also went into this big spiel of, Hali and Freeney are players that will play through injuries and hurt their production and this and that.

If a guy is so injured he literally can not do anything, he shouldn't be playing.

Players do this all the time, they get paid so much money, that they force themselves to play. Some players shouldnt, but they still do. This goes in all sports. We have seen it over and over, guys going out there when they probably shouldnt be out there.

bdeg · 04-17-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He also went into this big spiel of, Hali and Freeney are players that will play through injuries and hurt their production and this and that.

If a guy is so injured he literally can not do anything, he shouldn't be playing.

That's the coach's decision to make. You can NOT blame a guy for wanting to play. Especially with our black hole of depth.

Just Passin' By · 04-17-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He also went into this big spiel of, Hali and Freeney are players that will play through injuries and hurt their production and this and that.

If a guy is so injured he literally can not do anything, he shouldn't be playing.

See, this is where fans, and some teams, get it wrong. It's not up to the player to pull himself out at that point, other than his need to be honest with the team. If the player is trying to gut it out, it's up to the coaching staff and trainers to pull the plug if the guy's not able to get the job done. Blaming the player for that is idiotic.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 07:00 PM

I'm sure Tamba Hali is a nice dude and hard worker and all that but I don't see this great potential or ability.

Reminds me of Robert Ayers this year.

Mecca · 04-17-2009, 07:01 PM

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See, this is where fans, and some teams, get it wrong. It's not up to the player to pull himself out at that point, other than his need to be honest with the team. If the player is trying to gut it out, it's up to the coaching staff and trainers to pull the plug if the guy's not able to get the job done. Blaming the player for that is idiotic.

It's really hard for me to be positive about a player who isn't a great pass rusher that is also a liability against the run.

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chuxtrux Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grbacs basement Casino cash: $10004990	Defensive Line If they do move Hali to OLB in the 3-4, who are they going to have in the trenches. Dorsey isn't really suited to play in the middle in that kind of defense, do they move him outside and put Tyler at NT? And I guess put McBride in the other DE spot? Not that the defensive line can get much worse than last year, but it is still the one spot on the team that I have no idea what they are going to do with.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	I'm sure Tamba Hali is a nice dude and hard worker and all that but I don't see this great potential or ability. Reminds me of Robert Ayers this year.
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