Defensive Line

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by bdeg

Tamba has a place in the new hybrid scheme. He can get a slight edge and sometimes get the corner on RT's. Having an end there will help sometimes, too. He comes in on 2nd & long, 3rd & long, usually passrushing the rt but dropping like maybe 10-20%

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with the pick. But I don't think he's useless. rushing that side isn't that hard. Ideally we'd upgrade the #1 pass rusher, bump Vrabel to that spot, and have Hali as a backup.

Rushing from the strongside spot or the LDE spot isn't hard????? Is that what you just said?

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Rushing from the strongside spot or the LDE spot isn't hard????? Is that what you just said?

Let me rephrase that. Relative to rushing from the RE spot, yes.

And I did say "isn't that hard"

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by bdeg

Let me rephrase that. Relative to rushing from the RE spot, yes.

And I did say "isn't that hard"

Ok rushing from the LDE position is generally harder than rushing from the RDE spot (if you are looking at those position from the defensive side of the ball).

Look at the top 10 sackers each year and tell me how many are playing the RDE spot like Jared, and how many are playing the LDE spot like Hali. It's really an apples and orange comparison because those two positions are being asked to do different things.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Ok rushing from the LDE position is generally harder than rushing from the RDE spot (if you are looking at those position from the defensive side of the ball).

Look at the top 10 sackers each year and tell me how many are playing the RDE spot like Jared, and how many are playing the LDE spot like Hali. It's really an apples and orange comparison because those two positions are being asked to do different things.

It's easier to get sacks because they're rushing the blindside. But who pass blocks better LT's or RT's, this is pretty simple.

Teams put their best rusher on the weakside, of course that's where the top sackers are going to play. Just like teams generally like a run stopper with some ability to rush against RTs on the strongsidde.

I'm not equating a sack with beating an OT.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by bdeg

It's easier to get sacks because they're rushing the blindside. But who pass blocks better LT's or RT's, this is pretty simple.

Teams put their best rusher on the weakside, of course that's where the top sackers are going to play. Just like teams generally like a run stopper with some ability to rush against RTs on the strongsidde.

It's not about who is the better pass blocker per say, it's also about what the defensive end is being asked to do. No different than the fact that ROLB's tend to get more sacks than LOLB's in a 30 front. It's not a coincidence and it has more to do with who is the better pass blocker. If it were about lining up the best pass rusher against the worst pass blocker, then why wouldn't Jared Allen go to LDE?

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

It's not about who is the better pass blocker per say, it's also about what the defensive end is being asked to do. No different than the fact that ROLB's tend to get more sacks than LOLB's in a 30 front. It's not a coincidence and it has more to do with who is the better pass blocker. If it were about lining up the best pass rusher against the worst pass blocker, then why wouldn't Jared Allen go to LDE?

What do you think I don't understand? I think you must be misunderstanding something I said.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by bdeg

What do you think I don't understand? I think you must be misunderstanding something I said.

Nope. What I am saying is, the defensive alignment doesn't favor the guy playing LDE even if he is a good pass rusher for lots of reasons. There is only a couple of REALLY good guys that could tear it up rushing the passer from that side.