Legal Steroids

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=782980

Thanks for the link.

I browsed around and found the stickied thread of the paralyzed dude who's a body builder. He's actually from Ottawa, Ks. He's had an L1 fractured spine like me. One of the videos shows him eventually walking with no crutches.

Now that's an inspiration for me to get back off my ass & start walking more again. I always wondered if an L1 survivor eventually walked without lofstran crutches, now I have proof.

My daughter's only 8 so I have plenty of time to fullfill my dream of walking her down the isle w/o crutches. IT CAN BE DONE.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by rtmike

Thanks for the link.

I browsed around and found the stickied thread of the paralyzed dude who's a body builder. He's actually from Ottawa, Ks. He's had an L1 fractured spine like me. One of the videos shows him eventually walking with no crutches.

Now that's an inspiration for me to get back off my ass & start walking more again. I always wondered if an L1 survivor eventually walked without lofstran crutches, now I have proof.

My daughter's only 8 so I have plenty of time to fullfill my dream of walking her down the isle w/o crutches. IT CAN BE DONE.

AWESOME! good luck and keep me up to date!

[DenverChief]

FYI max muscle also sells the same stuff but at quite a markup of about $90 a bottle...I would reccomend buying their name brand protein mixes as they are very tasty. Also don't for get to get a vitamin to take every morning, I loved their liquid vitamin they sold...just take a shot in the AM, you are already taking a ton of pills why take more?

[SBK]

Do this for your workout. I'm doing it now and I've never gained strength, or mass as fast.

Do 4-7 exercises, I do bench, squat, back rows, shoulder press then vary between leg curls, extensions or biceps and triceps each week.

When lifting count to 5, one thousand one, one thousand 2 etc so you do 5 seconds up and 5 seconds down. Then you want to lift until failure, which should be 8-12 reps, no more. Wait 3 minutes between each exercise. It takes about 30 minutes and you should lift 2x per week.

For diet it's good to eat lots of protein, veggies and stuff like black beans, pinto beans or lentils. I usually have a meat, veggie and beans for meals, or I'll eat eggs sometimes too. Within 90 minutes of the workout you can have 'white' carbs, like pizza and things, but only in that time line. I'd be doing better if I obeyed that rule.

Anyway, I could see in 2 weeks a difference in my arms, legs and chest. That was a total of 4 workouts, 2 hours of time at the gym.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by SBK

Do this for your workout. I'm doing it now and I've never gained strength, or mass as fast.

Do 4-7 exercises, I do bench, squat, back rows, shoulder press then vary between leg curls, extensions or biceps and triceps each week.

When lifting count to 5, one thousand one, one thousand 2 etc so you do 5 seconds up and 5 seconds down. Then you want to lift until failure, which should be 8-12 reps, no more. Wait 3 minutes between each exercise. It takes about 30 minutes and you should lift 2x per week.

For diet it's good to eat lots of protein, veggies and stuff like black beans, pinto beans or lentils. I usually have a meat, veggie and beans for meals, or I'll eat eggs sometimes too. Within 90 minutes of the workout you can have 'white' carbs, like pizza and things, but only in that time line. I'd be doing better if I obeyed that rule.

Anyway, I could see in 2 weeks a difference in my arms, legs and chest. That was a total of 4 workouts, 2 hours of time at the gym.

Yea but in 30 days can you make a ~50% jump in weight?

[SBK]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

Yea but in 30 days can you make a ~50% jump in weight?

Body weight, or weight you lift?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by SBK

When lifting count to 5, one thousand one, one thousand 2 etc so you do 5 seconds up and 5 seconds down. Then you want to lift until failure, which should be 8-12 reps, no more. Wait 3 minutes between each exercise. It takes about 30 minutes and you should lift 2x per week.

I have no problem with your actual routine, but lifting to failure every time you workout isn't the most efficient or effective way to stimulate them. Lifting to failure more than once every few weeks isn't a good idea.

[MTG#10]

BCD - Do you take anything for your liver while taking Havoc?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

BCD - Do you take anything for your liver while taking Havoc?

Since it methylated you can if you want to be extra careful. Liv52 is a good choice and cheap on Ebay.

[googlegoogle]

Try youtube searching p90x workouts. They don't use heavy heavy weights.

They use rubber bands. Burn off those extra calories with some sort of aerobics.

Don't DIET. Reducing calaries only wastes your muscle. I learned this the hard way.(angry)

Keep a log of what you eat. Only try and eat enough calories to grow more muscle. You will always get some fat with anabolism.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by googlegoogle

Try youtube searching p90x workouts. They don't use heavy heavy weights.

They use rubber bands. Burn off those extra calories with some sort of aerobics.

Don't DIET. Reducing calaries only wastes your muscle. I learned this the hard way.(angry)

Keep a log of what you eat. Only try and eat enough calories to grow more muscle. You will always get some fat with anabolism.

This = Stupid

[googlegoogle]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This = Stupid

I think stupid replies are the ones with replies of 'stupid' and nothing else.

P90x seems to make you cut legally. So you're saying it's a lie huh?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by googlegoogle

Don't DIET. Reducing calaries only wastes your muscle. I learned this the hard way.(angry)

That's absolutely ridiculous. Your diet must have sucked. You need the appropriate amount of fat, protein and carbohydrates (remember: carbs are protein-sparing).

[B_Ambuehl]

Jesus ****.

For starters you might want to ask questions like this somewhere where more people have the knowledge to help you. You've gotten some VERY idiotic advice so far.

Next, how about training and dieting consistently?

IMO if you're gonna use steroids you're better off using real established steroids. The OTC options differ only in the fact that their molecular structure wasn't patented by drug companies. There are a multitude of reasons all these legal steroid moleculaes weren't sought after and patented by drug companies. Their effectiveness to side effect ratio is completely out of whack. The side effects are the, same if not even greater, while the benefits are less.

Cue the BB.com PH bro's.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Jesus ****.

For starters you might want to ask questions like this somewhere where more people have the knowledge to help you. You've gotten some VERY idiotic advice so far.

Next, how about training and dieting consistently?

IMO if you're gonna use steroids you're better off using real established steroids. The OTC options differ only in the fact that their molecular structure wasn't patented by drug companies. There are a multitude of reasons all these legal steroid moleculaes weren't sought after and patented by drug companies. Their effectiveness to side effect ratio is completely out of whack. The side effects are the, same if not even greater, while the benefits are less.

Cue the BB.com PH bro's.

Which brings us back to the thread title "Legal Steroids".