On Record: Who do the Chiefs pick?

[the Talking Can]

lay it on the line, sometime before the draft:

Who do the Chiefs pick? If there is a trade down, say so....


this has nothing to do with your desires, you aren't advocating the pick, only a cold hard calculation on what our team does...


my pick is: Raji

[soundmind]

Here's to hoping they can trade down...

If not, then Take Monroe, Curry or Raji. I've not looked at the 2010 class well enough to pick amongst them myself. I think taking Monroe makes us better right now, but I think the others give us brighter futures.

However, my vote is to trade down - and select the best front 7 defensive player available. Get a 2 back and get an OT or Connor Barwin with that pick.

[brandon]

I'm guessing we trade down and take E. Brown. Makes much more sense than Jackson IMO.

[Titty Meat]

Monroe

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I have the DE's ranked as follows:

Everrete Brown- FSU
Brian Orakpo- UT
Larry English- UNI
Michael Johnson- GT
Tyson Jackson- LSU
Conner Barwin- Cinn
Phillip Hunt- Houston
Robert Ayers- Tenn
Paul Kruger- Utah

Of course, I am no scout, and this is my first year being super pumped for the draft.

I think Brown has the intangibles despite his size. I also really, really like Phillip Hunt as a late round pick. Kid has smarts, heart, and a great work ethic.

Let me fix that for you:

1. Paul Kruger
2. Brian Orakpo
3. Everette Brown
4. Robert Ayers
5. Tyson Jackson
6. Larry English
7. Cody Brown
8. Aaron Maybin
9. Connor Barwin
10. Lawrence Sidbury

[SBK]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think they'll trade down at least once, if not twice

Me too.

As far as what I want, I want to have 2 first rounders next year.

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by Dante84

I have the DE's ranked as follows:

Everrete Brown- FSU
Brian Orakpo- UT
Larry English- UNI
Michael Johnson- GT
Tyson Jackson- LSU
Conner Barwin- Cinn
Phillip Hunt- Houston
Robert Ayers- Tenn
Paul Kruger- Utah

Of course, I am no scout, and this is my first year being super pumped for the draft.

I think Brown has the intangibles despite his size. I also really, really like Phillip Hunt as a late round pick. Kid has smarts, heart, and a great work ethic.

Your scouting abilities would be scrutinized from this corner for even including Michael Johnson. That kid runs like an excited duck, he will get mashed in the NFL.

[chiefs1111]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Let me fix that for you:

1. Paul Kruger
2. Brian Orakpo
3. Everette Brown
4. Robert Ayers
5. Tyson Jackson
6. Larry English
7. Cody Brown
8. Aaron Maybin
9. Connor Barwin
10. Lawrence Sidbury

Kruger number 1??

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Kruger number 1??

Yep. His only downfall is that he's missing a kidney. Otherwise, he's a complete player. Best player on a 13-0 BCS winning team. Absolutely dominates for a full game. Stong, fast, long, smart, instinctive, plays sideline to sideline and has the burst to chase down plays from behind. Is excellent in drop back coverage as well. Cerebral, but also plays nasty. IMHO, best DE in this draft.

Put on the game tapes of the Utah vs. Michigan and Utah vs. Alabama. He is absolutely dominant. Was completely unstoppable in the MWC and played big in the big games.

[ChiefsCountry]

He is our Utah homer.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Let me fix that for you:

1. Paul Kruger
2. Brian Orakpo
3. Everette Brown
4. Robert Ayers
5. Tyson Jackson
6. Larry English
7. Cody Brown
8. Aaron Maybin
9. Connor Barwin
10. Lawrence Sidbury

Thanks, but no thanks.

By the way, he is not only missing a kidney, he is also missing a spleen. And he is nowhere near the number one DE coming out. Come on, man. I know my list ain't perfect, but that's a joke.

And to follow it up by putting Orakpo in front of Brown? No way. Orakpo is high on my list purely on his physical ability. I think he takes plays/games off- but i couldnt throw any of the other guys in front of him with full confidence.

And I agree that Michael Johnson probably shouldnt be on the list- I threw him in the middle because of all the hype he had a few months ago. My bad.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Thanks, but no thanks.

By the way, he is not only missing a kidney, he is also missing a spleen. And he is nowhere near the number one DE coming out. Come on, man. I know my list ain't perfect, but that's a joke.

And to follow it up by putting Orakpo in front of Brown? No way. Orakpo is high on my list purely on his physical ability. I think he takes plays/games off- but i couldnt throw any of the other guys in front of him with full confidence.

And I agree that Michael Johnson probably shouldnt be on the list- I threw him in the middle because of all the hype he had a few months ago. My bad.

Spleen? That's like missing a tonsil. And I'm totally serious about Kruger. None of the other DE's in this draft have his complete skill set. Not one. Find the Michigan game and Alabama game vids. Not Kruger highlights, but the actual game. Hell, any Utah game really. There is one guy that continually stands out every single game. That's Kruger. The guy is absolutely relentless with superb football instincts.

And yes, I put Orakpo in front of Brown. Brown seems to have a lot of love from this forum, but most guys in the know have him down the list due to the fact that all he can do, or has done, is go upfield in a speed rush. And he's probably maxed out his body. He's shorter than you would like on the outside as well. If he turns out to be Dwight Freeney that's one thing, but he hasn't shown enough, especially in the run game, to be that complete player. He's got an amazing first step, but that's just not enough to be anything other than the second coming of Elvis Dumervil - if he's lucky. Orakpo is big and amazingly strong which would help him against NFL caliber tackles. He also is able to play the run more effectively than Brown. He seems to be a bit stiff in his mechanics, but look to have more upside than Brown. Add to the argument that Brown was a 2nd Team All-American, while Orakpo was a consensus first team, and also won the Hendricks (top DE), the Lombardi (top D lineman) and Nagurski (top defensive player). Both are good players, but I think that Orakpo is the better player.

[Otter]

If they don't trade down the best tackle available.

If the do trade down probably the same scenario.

It all starts with the lines.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Let me fix that for you:

1. Paul Kruger
2. Brian Orakpo
3. Everette Brown
4. Robert Ayers
5. Tyson Jackson
6. Larry English
7. Cody Brown
8. Aaron Maybin
9. Connor Barwin
10. Lawrence Sidbury

Kruger has short arms, lacks explosiveness, and has a bad injury history. He's pure dirt.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Otter

If they don't trade down the best tackle available.

If the do trade down probably the same scenario.

It all starts with the lines.

Of the last 10 teams to win a Super Bowl, how many had more than 1 first rounder on the line?

[Otter]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Of the last 10 teams to win a Super Bowl, how many had more than 1 first rounder on the line?

I don't know.

I'm making my guess by the draft strengths and the fact we already have our starting QB. You start at the QB and start working back from there when building a team.

Just a guess, nothing more.