NFL Draft Mike Mayock's top 20 prospects....

Quesadilla Joe · 04-26-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Adrian Peterson without the speed isn't Adrian Peterson.

Adrian Peterson is a punishing runner with breakaway speed. Peterson doesn't have good hands and he doesn't do a good job of pass protecting.

Knowshon Moreno is a punishing runner with great acceleration without breakaway speed. He has great hands, is a good pass protector, and has better balance than 99.9999% of NFL running backs.

htismaqe · 04-26-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624

Adrian Peterson is a punishing runner with breakaway speed. Peterson doesn't have good hands and he doesn't do a good job of pass protecting.

Knowshon Moreno is a punishing runner with great acceleration without breakaway speed. He has great hands, is a good pass protector, and has better balance than 99.9999% of NFL running backs.

He lacks top end speed, he lacks shiftiness, and wasn't worth a top 20 pick.

You can tout the pick all you want - if you're lucky, he'll be Deangelo Williams, AT BEST.

Quesadilla Joe · 04-26-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He lacks top end speed, he lacks shiftiness, and wasn't worth a top 20 pick.

You can tout the pick all you want - if you're lucky, he'll be Deangelo Williams, AT BEST.

Are you crazy?!?!?! Moreno is great at making people miss. If you watch those videos I posted you would see that. It is 15 minutes of Moreno and you won't see the first guy tackle him ONCE.

He always makes the first guy miss and just knows where to go with the football. He has great instincts. He is the best all around RB to come out of the draft since LaDanian Tomlinson.

htismaqe · 04-26-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624

Are you crazy?!?!?! Moreno is great at making people miss. If you watch those videos I posted you would see that. It is 15 minutes of Moreno and you won't see the first guy tackle him ONCE.

He always makes the first guy miss and just knows where to go with the football. He has great instincts. He is the best all around RB to come out of the draft since LaDanian Tomlinson.

I'm not crazy. You've gone full homer.

Ultra Peanut · 04-26-2009, 08:26 AM

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You can tout the pick all you want - if you're lucky, he'll be Deangelo Williams, AT BEST.

#1 in TDs, #2 in YPC, and #3 in total rushing yards?

htismaqe · 04-26-2009, 08:32 AM

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#1 in TDs, #2 in YPC, and #3 in total rushing yards?

He had a great season no doubt. In his 3rd season. And it's still only one year.

Ultra Peanut · 04-26-2009, 08:33 AM

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He had a great season no doubt. In his 3rd season. And it's still only one year.

He averaged five yards a carry in 2007. It's not his fault his coach is reerunedly loyal to guys who are obviously done.

Bad example of limited upper ceiling aside, it's pretty obvious at this point that first round RBs are a luxury. DeAngelo/JStew is a great duo, but there are so many capable RBs out there that I couldn't ever really advocate taking one in the top 15 at this point.

htismaqe · 04-26-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

He averaged five yards a carry in 2007. It's not his fault his coach is reerunedly loyal to guys who are obviously done.

Bad example of limited upper ceiling aside, it's pretty obvious at this point that first round RBs are a luxury. DeAngelo/JStew is a great duo, but there are so many capable RBs out there that I couldn't ever really advocate taking one in the top 15 at this point.

I'll take that. It wasn't a great example.

At least Williams was a late 1st guy, like LJ. If you're gonna take a RB at #12, he better be beyond special. And Moreno aint' that.