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Old 04-29-2009, 07:49 PM   #1
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Um...yeah..ok
No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:50 PM   #2
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:53 PM   #3
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No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about.
You're problem with your argument is you are assuming the hitters take the same approach with a runner on 2nd and 1 out than with a runner on 3rd 0 outs.

That isn't how it works.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:57 PM   #4
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You're problem with your argument is you are assuming the hitters take the same approach with a runner on 2nd and 1 out than with a runner on 3rd 0 outs.

That isn't how it works.
You know a runner can score from 2B on a single, too...

I know all about situational hitting, with a different perspective than most on this board, believe me.

My argument is unaffected by what you're alluding to.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:59 PM   #5
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You know a runner can score from 2B on a single, too...

I know all about situational hitting, with a different perspective than most on this board, believe me.

My argument is unaffected by what you're alluding to.
UGH!!!! Dude, Teahen and Guillen were more than obviously trying to get the ball up and to the outfield for the SAC fly.

Yes, I do understand a runner can score from 2nd. That is not the point so quit.


Your argument is full of holes cause you are assuming the 2 guys who popped out would have taken the same approach had the runner situation been different.

And if you know all about situational hitting, nevermind I played baseball for 10 year, you know I am speaking the truth.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:01 PM   #6
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UGH!!!! Dude, Teahen and Guillen were more than obviously trying to get the ball up and to the outfield for the SAC fly.

Yes, I do understand a runner can score from 2nd. That is not the point so quit.


Your argument is full of holes cause you are assuming the 2 guys who popped out would have taken the same approach had the runner situation been different.

And if you know all about situational hitting, nevermind I played baseball for 10 year, you know I am speaking the truth.
Are you ****ing kidding me?

The reason the logic was flawed was the same reason it wasn't the right call to have Crisp bunt last night with runners on first and second. It flies in the face of the numbers.
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Are you ****ing kidding me?

The reason the logic was flawed was the same reason it wasn't the right call to have Crisp bunt last night with runners on first and second. It flies in the face of the numbers.
And I said typically I would agree with you except it was Bloomquist at the plate. You are just as well having him put a bunt down as letting him swing away. In fact you have a better chance of moving the runner with him bunting.

While your numbers in general are right, you are not taking into account who is at the plate.

Last night's call, while not the best call, would have been fine had the bunt went down the 1st base line and not to the 3rd base side.
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:11 PM   #8
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And I said typically I would agree with you except it was Bloomquist at the plate. You are just as well having him put a bunt down as letting him swing away. In fact you have a better chance of moving the runner with him bunting.

While your numbers in general are right, you are not taking into account who is at the plate.

Last night's call, while not the best call, would have been fine had the bunt went down the 1st base line and not to the 3rd base side.
http://books.google.com/books?id=1s7...esult&resnum=1

Runner on 1st and 0 out = 43 percent chance of scoring
Runner on 2nd and 0 out = 60 percent chance of scoring
Runner on 3rd and 1 out = 54 percent chance of scoring

"This decrease in scoring percentages makes sacrifice bunting the runner to third base extremely questionable if the batter is a decent hitter."

Bloomquist is hitting 2nd. By virtue of putting him in this spot, Hillman is implicitly saying WB handles the bat well and is a "decent" hitter.

But please, continue to tell me that I'm wrong. It's simple math. And Hillman doesn't know what the **** he is doing.
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