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Old 05-05-2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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You quoted the important part of the post, yet you didn't seem to get it. Once again; in retrospect, we had no chance in hell of signing either of them once Pioli became GM, because his mind was already made up long before the combine, and BEFORE the Cassel trade*

*That's the important part.
Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:33 PM   #2
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Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.
Cassel hasn't signed a long term deal!! KC could still make a play for Sanchez.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:35 PM   #3
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Cassel hasn't signed a long term deal!! KC could still make a play for Sanchez.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:34 PM   #4
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Well, the combine wouldn't have helped Sanchez's case at all, and since Stafford didn't even throw, I'm not sure how it would have helped him either, although that doesn't matter because we couldn't have drafted him anyway.

You are right though, I do believe Pioli had his mind made up based on college gametape, and/or lack thereof in the case of Sanchez, and made his mind up that Cassel was the best option between the two well before the combine. Most people on here knew that when he traded for him. You, however, chose to put your fingers in your ears and stomp around on the ground like a jilted child.
So now you're going to tell me that you, unlike everyone else, just KNEW it was Cassel for sure the instant Pioli touched down at KCI with contract signing pen in hand?
You just KNEW, unlike everyone else, that "the deal was done" before the Pats slapped the tag on him?

This is what you're telling me?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:41 PM   #5
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So now you're going to tell me that you, unlike everyone else, just KNEW it was Cassel for sure the instant Pioli touched down at KCI with contract signing pen in hand?
You just KNEW, unlike everyone else, that "the deal was done" before the Pats slapped the tag on him?

This is what you're telling me?
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. However, once Pioli traded for Cassel, I thought he made it crystal clear that he had chosen Cassel over Sanchez, like most any intelligent person would. You, and others, tried to convince everyone that because Cassel hadn't been signed to a long term deal, we would probably draft Sanchez. Pioli likes Cassel better than Sanchez. Period.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:05 PM   #6
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. However, once Pioli traded for Cassel, I thought he made it crystal clear that he had chosen Cassel over Sanchez, like most any intelligent person would. You, and others, tried to convince everyone that because Cassel hadn't been signed to a long term deal, we would probably draft Sanchez. Pioli likes Cassel better than Sanchez. Period.
Wrong.

I said it more than anyone else, and I NEVER said that we WOULD draft Sanchez.

I said that because Cassel hadn't signed a long-term deal we COULD draft Sanchez.

Don't sit here with hindsight and pretend that just because the outcome ended up being what you wanted that you actually knew what Pioli was thinkign. That's BS and you know it.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:24 PM   #7
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Wrong.

I said it more than anyone else, and I NEVER said that we WOULD draft Sanchez.

I said that because Cassel hadn't signed a long-term deal we COULD draft Sanchez.

Don't sit here with hindsight and pretend that just because the outcome ended up being what you wanted that you actually knew what Pioli was thinkign. That's BS and you know it.
Well, of course we COULD have drafted Sanchez. We also COULD have drafted Michael Miller at #3. But as you said in a later post in this very thread, everyone in the NFL knew we weren't going to draft Sanchez, so why couldn't our board understand that?

And I don't and never have claimed to know what Pioli is/was thinking, but it doesn't take hindsight to see that this board was throwing out ridiculous hypotheticals about taking Sanchez that there was basically a 0% chance of happening.

And this thread is about Stafford anyway for some reason, who we actually did have a 0% chance of drafting.
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Well, of course we COULD have drafted Sanchez. We also COULD have drafted Michael Miller at #3. But as you said in a later post in this very thread, everyone in the NFL knew we weren't going to draft Sanchez, so why couldn't our board understand that?

And I don't and never have claimed to know what Pioli is/was thinking, but it doesn't take hindsight to see that this board was throwing out ridiculous hypotheticals about taking Sanchez that there was basically a 0% chance of happening.

And this thread is about Stafford anyway for some reason, who we actually did have a 0% chance of drafting.
Saying there was a 0% chance of us taking Sanchez before the draft ever took place IS claiming to know what Pioli was thinking.

Suggesting that nothing is set in stone until Cassel signs a contract isn't ridiculous at all, it's realistic.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:30 PM   #9
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Saying there was a 0% chance of us taking Sanchez before the draft ever took place IS claiming to know what Pioli was thinking.

Suggesting that nothing is set in stone until Cassel signs a contract isn't ridiculous at all, it's realistic.
If the rest of the league could see it, which you admit, why couldn't this board?
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Saying there was a 0% chance of us taking Sanchez before the draft ever took place IS claiming to know what Pioli was thinking.

Suggesting that nothing is set in stone until Cassel signs a contract isn't ridiculous at all, it's realistic.
Had the contract been a done deal before the draft, even I would have thrown up my hands and said, "ok, shows over".
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Saying there was a 0% chance of us taking Sanchez before the draft ever took place IS claiming to know what Pioli was thinking.

Suggesting that nothing is set in stone until Cassel signs a contract isn't ridiculous at all, it's realistic.
If I say there was a zero percent chance of the Chiefs taking Mack with the third pick, does that mean I know what Pioli is thinking?
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