Clark Judge: Rating smartest, boldest, scariest offseason moves

[Mecca]

Bowe was one of the picks I didn't complain about...so I got that one!

Tyson Jackson is a very low risk pick basically but I don't know if he will ever justify his draft position or the contract he'll get especially when you consider we're probably looking at atleast 1 more 1st round lineman being taken by this team.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bowe was one of the picks I didn't complain about...so I got that one!

Tyson Jackson is a very low risk pick basically but I don't know if he will ever justify his draft position or the contract he'll get especially when you consider we're probably looking at atleast 1 more 1st round lineman being taken by this team.

New England has 3 first rounders on their defensive line, and they're all getting well paid. Wilfork is due for a new contract, as a matter of fact. Despite this, they still added Brace. It's how Belichick (and, by extension, likely how Pioli) goes about setting up a defense. Defensive line is of utmost importance. Given that approach, I fail to see how your assertion makes sense.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

New England has 3 first rounders on their defensive line, and they're all getting well paid. Wilfork is due for a new contract, as a matter of fact. Despite this, they still added Brace. It's how Belichick (and, by extension, likely how Pioli) goes about setting up a defense. Defensive line is of utmost importance. Given that approach, I fail to see how your assertion makes sense.

None of them were top 5 guys correct? Ron Brace was a good pick for them at the top of the 2nd round.

I know people bring up this under thing all the time but I fully suspect they want to build a pure 3-4 team, now Jackson fits that and that'll leave us needing a nose and Terrance Cody being in next years draft...problem is I'm not sure where any of those other guys fit.

Plus it hurts because when you have to take a NT instead of one of the many playmakers that will be available next year it's frustrating.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mecca

None of them were top 5 guys correct? Ron Brace was a good pick for them at the top of the 2nd round.

I know people bring up this under thing all the time but I fully suspect they want to build a pure 3-4 team, now Jackson fits that and that'll leave us needing a nose and Terrance Cody being in next years draft...problem is I'm not sure where any of those other guys fit.

Plus it hurts because when you have to take a NT instead of one of the many playmakers that will be available next year it's frustrating.

Seymour was taken at 6, but why does that matter? You keep acting as if all drafts are static when they aren't. It's been the problem with your complaints the entire time.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

New England has 3 first rounders on their defensive line, and they're all getting well paid. Wilfork is due for a new contract, as a matter of fact. Despite this, they still added Brace. It's how Belichick (and, by extension, likely how Pioli) goes about setting up a defense. Defensive line is of utmost importance. Given that approach, I fail to see how your assertion makes sense.

I think he's saying that we could have traded down and gotten an extra lineman in addition to a top 10 pick (maybe still getting Jackson in the process).

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bowe was one of the picks I didn't complain about...so I got that one!

Tyson Jackson is a very low risk pick basically but I don't know if he will ever justify his draft position or the contract he'll get especially when you consider we're probably looking at atleast 1 more 1st round lineman being taken by this team.

Well, I would have loved to trade down. I can only trust that there wasn't a good enough offer. There's reason to doubt that they passed up a good trade--as you know, I was always the absolute, positive supporter of a trade down (and by the way, ironic that many of the same people that completely thrashed me--and that's a huge understatement--for wanting a trade-down are the same who are pissed at Pioli for passing it up, regardless of the trade value. Ironic, isn't it?). I hope they didn't. And if they did, then yes, I disagree with the trade.

But at the same time, I was always clear that if there is a guy you want and you believe that there is a good chance you'll lose him if you trade down, then that changes the whole story. I don't know who was on the board in the top 5, nor do I know what the Chiefs were offered in trade value. So yeah, good reason to doubt, but I think a lot of people are criticizing the refusal to trade down without really knowing what actually happened.