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[milkman]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I won't pretend that I'm old enough to have seen him play, but I haven't heard him listed at the very top of linebackers in most "all time" NFL teams and the like.

Because he was in the AFL for much of his career and was overshadowed by one of the very best MLBs to ever play the game in Willie Lanier.

If, however, sacks had been a stat in his day, and he had been used in the same way as LT, then he would have been the one overshadowing Willie, and I say this as the biggest Willie Lanier fan on this board, my favorite all time player.

But the fact is, having watched both, if I had to choose between Bobby Bell or LT to build around, I'm takin Bobby, and it wouldn't take me more than a second to decide.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by milkman

Because he was in the AFL for much of his career and was overshadowed by one of the very best MLBs to ever play the game in Willie Lanier.

If, however, sacks had been a stat in his day, and he had been used in the same way as LT, then he would have been the one overshadowing Willie, and I say this as the biggest Willie Lanier fan on this board, my favorite all time player.

But the fact is, having watched both, if I had to choose between Bobby Bell or LT to build around, I'm takin Bobby, and it wouldn't take me more than a second to decide.

Get a non-Chiefs fan to weigh in and I'll start listening.

Not trying to be a jerk, but homerism is rampant everywhere, and I'm guilty of it too. I never saw Bell play, but I've hardly ever heard him held in the type of reverence you describe. Maybe he was all that, but I'd believe it alot mroe if I heard it from an old-time NFL player or whatever.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Get a non-Chiefs fan to weigh in and I'll start listening.

Not trying to be a jerk, but homerism is rampant everywhere, and I'm guilty of it too. I never saw Bell play, but I've hardly ever heard him held in the type of reverence you describe. Maybe he was all that, but I'd believe it alot mroe if I heard it from an old-time NFL player or whatever.

FTR, I have heard John Clayton discuss Bell in much the same way as I have.

As for me, I don't think that many would call me a homer.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Get a non-Chiefs fan to weigh in and I'll start listening.

Not trying to be a jerk, but homerism is rampant everywhere, and I'm guilty of it too. I never saw Bell play, but I've hardly ever heard him held in the type of reverence you describe. Maybe he was all that, but I'd believe it alot mroe if I heard it from an old-time NFL player or whatever.

milkman isn't much of a homer. For years he has had Bobby Bell as one of the best ever, so it isn't a new development either.

Plus he's old enough to have been a rational thinking adult when Bell played .

Really though, he hasn't ever though TG was one of the all time greats. Shit, even most of you guys think he's an all time great! He's been very candid about Green and Holmes and especially LJ.

I wouldn't call milkman a homer.