I like Herm's method better...

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

So you were all for dumping Gonzalez then, right?

under the right circumstances, I would have been for trading Tony. But I don't think a 2nd next year was enough.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

under the right circumstances, I would have been for trading Tony. But I don't think a 2nd next year was enough.

That is the most you are going to get for a tight end that age. Even one as good as Tony.

Anyway, I agree with signing the stop gap vets and letting them play a year and replace them with superior younger talent next year. You can't fix all the holes in one offseason. Vrabel, Thomas, Goff, and Engram aren't going to be keeping young super studs off the field.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

under the right circumstances, I would have been for trading Tony. But I don't think a 2nd next year was enough.

Then you're a hypocrite. Gonzalez was old and was not going to be helping the team win in 3 years. Since the Chiefs aren't going to win this year, he needed to be gotten rid of so that the team could bring in a young player.

Your logic, not mine.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Then you're a hypocrite. Gonzalez was old and was not going to be helping the team win in 3 years. Since the Chiefs aren't going to win this year, he needed to be gotten rid of so that the team could bring in a young player.

Your logic, not mine.

the logic behind it would be that Tony would be different than other players mentioned bc he could have such a huge effect on the QB.

Tony is in a different class than these other players and he could help the team by helping develop the QB. Developing the QB is something that could help down the road.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

the logic behind it would be that Tony would be different than other players mentioned bc he could have such a huge effect on the QB.

Tony is in a different class than these other players and he could help the team by helping develop the QB. Developing the QB is something that could help down the road.

JPB is right.

You are a hypocrite.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by milkman

JPB is right.

You are a hypocrite.

ummm... on somethings yes. on this topic. no.

If Tony could help bring Cassel along, it would help this team three years from now.

Who is Zach Thomas going to help three years from now??? give me a break.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

ummm... on somethings yes. on this topic. no.

If Tony could help bring Cassel along, it would help this team three years from now.

Who is Zach Thomas going to help three years from now??? give me a break.

He's going to help the young guys on defense transition to a new scheme and help them learn how to prepare to play in the NFL, as is Mike Vrabel.

The fact is, those guys will do more to help the young guys grow on defense than Tony would have helped Matt Cassel.

Tony is a selfish player who would have been unhappy with the fact that Cassel will be spreading the ball around.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

ummm... on somethings yes. on this topic. no.

If Tony could help bring Cassel along, it would help this team three years from now.

Who is Zach Thomas going to help three years from now??? give me a break.

Are you really going to claim that there are no young defenders on the Chiefs for guys like Thomas and Vrabel to bring along?