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Old 06-24-2009, 10:13 AM  
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:53 PM   #136
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Because he makes plays. Few others do.

But I agree. He probably is overrated by homers like myself.
I pictured alot of people losing their minds when EA put out it's roster update last year and Page went from a 78 to like a 72.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:17 PM   #137
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Dude, it's June. Give it a rest. Are you really gonna hang your argument on statements from Sapp recounting his days with the Raiders? The Raiders. Losers. You can't say no veteran will mentor a rookie. Winning teams do, losing teams don't.
The "argument's" already been made. There are plenty (if not hundreds) of NFL players that flat out do not want anything to do with "mentoring".

And why the hell would they? So that after they mentor a younger player, they're out of a job?

That doesn't make much sense.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:33 PM   #138
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The "argument's" already been made. There are plenty (if not hundreds) of NFL players that flat out do not want anything to do with "mentoring".

And why the hell would they? So that after they mentor a younger player, they're out of a job?

That doesn't make much sense.
The argument hasn't been made. You're using one person's opinion (Sapp, a really awkward example in the first place) and generalizing across to "plenty" and potentially "hundreds" of players?

Why would they mentor other players? Oh, I don't know. Maybe because they want to win? Maybe because they know that coaches and front offices would much rather keep a leader around than a loner? Do you really think that an above average veteran who isn't on Brett Favre status can get away with shunning young players without the coach or front office noticing? Most players would get "fired" for not working hard and putting themselves above the team.

Yes, there are "plenty" of young players who shun advice and "plenty" of veterans who refuse to give it. But there are also plenty who follow by example (even if unadmittedly) and there are also plenty who lead (even if unintentionally).
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:33 PM   #139
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I pictured alot of people losing their minds when EA put out it's roster update last year and Page went from a 78 to like a 72.


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Old 06-24-2009, 11:37 PM   #140
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The argument hasn't been made. You're using one person's opinion (Sapp, a really awkward example in the first place) and generalizing across to "plenty" and potentially "hundreds" of players?

Why would they mentor other players? Oh, I don't know. Maybe because they want to win? Maybe because they know that coaches and front offices would much rather keep a leader around than a loner? Do you really think that an above average veteran who isn't on Brett Favre status can get away with shunning young players without the coach or front office noticing? Most players would get "fired" for not working hard and putting themselves above the team.

Yes, there are "plenty" of young players who shun advice and "plenty" of veterans who refuse to give it. But there are also plenty who follow by example (even if unadmittedly) and there are also plenty who lead (even if unintentionally).
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:39 PM   #141
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:45 PM   #142
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Good signing. He will definately create competition. No one will be handed starting jobs this year. I remember when the Chargers Front Office thought Rodney Harrison was washed up. He gave the Patriots some pretty good years...Brown could do the same in KC...
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:51 PM   #143
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If he stays on the field he's better than both Page and Pollard......Page has become one of the most overrated Chiefs players, I'm not sure why.
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Because he makes plays. Few others do.

But I agree. He probably is overrated by homers like myself.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:54 PM   #144
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Good signing. He will definately create competition. No one will be handed starting jobs this year. I remember when the Chargers Front Office thought Rodney Harrison was washed up. He gave the Patriots some pretty good years...Brown could do the same in KC...
Problem with that comparison is the fact that Harrison had been relatively healthy throughout his career leading up to that point. Brown's always been plagued by injuries. I think it's a good signing nonetheless. Just an entirely different situation.
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If he stays on the field he's better than both Page and Pollard......Page has become one of the most overrated Chiefs players, I'm not sure why.
Blow me. The guy has had to cover half the field for 5 seconds with zero pass rush.
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I pictured alot of people losing their minds when EA put out it's roster update last year and Page went from a 78 to like a 72.
I bet I was one of the five people that wasnt surprised by Pollards jump to a 87.

Page should be a 80-84, but isnt close to elite as some have suggested. If Brown ends up starting in this scheme, I would think he would take Pages spot. Pollard is a much better box safety, that is what he did at Purdue to get recognized.


Brown can teach one hell of alot in pass coverage to Pollard (by teaching, or example) and a shitton about the importance of good tackling and form tackling to both.

I see him as the third safety and see him taking over for Pollard on third and long situations.

If this holds true, Pollard might make the probowl as a special teamer. Dont forget, or discount, that Pollard is also in a contract year iirc.

good signing at the very least
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:10 AM   #149
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i think brown will be a run stop specialist. He probably isnt fast enough to play cover anything. who gives a shit if he mentors anyone as long as he makes some plays to help the team win acouple games.
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