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googlegoogle · 07-07-2009, 01:46 AM

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Titty Meat · 07-07-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

He was so good in fact, he couldn't beat out the guy who had never played RT in his entire NFL career?

McIntosh was the highest paid player on the O-line no? Carl & Herm weren't going to bench they'd look like idiots..... nevermind.

milkman · 07-08-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Why then would we force a square peg into a round hole and pretend he's a long-term solution there?

That remains to be seen. He hasn't played downs at RT that we can assess.
And to assume that he'll play as well on the right side, in the NFL, is silly.
None of us know that he'll be able to make the transition without missing a beat.

That'd be ideal, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen.
The guy doesn't have the right head on his shoulders to do that.

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Originally Posted by Micjones

That remains to be seen. He hasn't played downs at RT that we can assess.
And to assume that he'll play as well on the right side, in the NFL, is silly.
None of us know that he'll be able to make the transition without missing a beat.

What Taylor does as well as anyone is get underneath the defender's pad and hold his position.

He uses leverage as well as anyone I've seen.

That is not ideal for the RT position because you want a mauler, a guy that can push defenders, maybe knock them on their ass on occassion and get into the second level and knock another on his ass.

But what he does well is still better than McSuckintosh.

**Buehler445** · 07-08-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Why then would we force a square peg into a round hole and pretend he's a long-term solution there?

Who's pretending? Who says he has to be there longer than this year if (hopefully when) we get a prototypical RT worth a shit in there? This is a best of a bunch of shitty options deal. It's not a 10 year Pro Bowler type situation here. It's a stop gap, and I think he's the best one.

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That remains to be seen. He hasn't played downs at RT that we can assess.
And to assume that he'll play as well on the right side, in the NFL, is silly.
None of us know that he'll be able to make the transition without missing a beat.

Then why are you so against it? He could be significantly better than McIntosh who is pretty much the same profile (decent in pass pro, technician not a mauler) but who has shown that he sucks, is old, is declining and spent a lot of time bitching last year. MciIntosh sucks. Taylor is better at being McIntosh than McIntosh. Stick him in there and give him a shot. It's not like McIntosh is going anywhere.

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That'd be ideal, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that to happen.
The guy doesn't have the right head on his shoulders to do that.

Agreed. It sure would be nice though.
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**Buehler445** · 07-08-2009, 09:14 AM

I guess I just don't understand why Taylor isn't in. His big weakness is run blocking, but so is McIntosh's. And from what I've seen Taylor's pass pro is better than McIntosh's also.
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**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

What Taylor does as well as anyone is get underneath the defender's pad and hold his position.

He uses leverage as well as anyone I've seen.

That is not ideal for the RT position because you want a mauler, a guy that can push defenders, maybe knock them on their ass on occassion and get into the second level and knock another on his ass.

But what he does well is still better than McSuckintosh.

This, this, a million times this.

Jawshco · 07-08-2009, 10:34 AM

Or...we cut McIntosh and sign ol' Wayne Gandy to be our stop gap for the year. We could probably afford it, and Gandy can play both RT & LT. I think it would be an upgrade.

RustShack · 07-08-2009, 10:42 AM

The only reason Richardson isn't starting or wasn't drafted high is because of his head. You have to think hes been working harder this year otherwise he would have been cut like Will Franklin.

talastan · 07-08-2009, 10:48 AM

I still think Brown is the best option IMO. He played RT at the college level. He has the size and strength. His technique is the only question mark being that he played in a spread offense and didn't use the three point stance very much IIRC.

milkman · 07-08-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

I still think Brown is the best option IMO. He played RT at the college level. He has the size and strength. His technique is the only question mark being that he played in a spread offense and didn't use the three point stance very much IIRC.

I haven't seen any evidence that Brown's feet have been removed from the mud of his hometown, so unless Pioli and Haley saw something that makes them think they can improve his feet, I don't see him as a viable option at all.

RustShack · 07-08-2009, 11:47 AM

Richardson > Brown easy

Unless fans like to play players based on college, which wouldn't surprise me since Chiefs fans also prefer the good guy character over talent.

Jawshco · 07-08-2009, 03:14 PM

Wayne Gandy:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/3486

Stop gap supreme! I think he's better than who we have right now.

evolve27 · 07-08-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

When you have 10 total sacks in a season, I think it's a little short-sighted to leave D-Line off your top 5 priority list.

And maybe the team thinks Herb Taylor is their guy, like I do.

Forgot about Herb!! Haha.

kepp · 07-08-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I haven't seen any evidence that Brown's feet have been removed from the mud of his hometown, so unless Pioli and Haley saw something that makes them think they can improve his feet, I don't see him as a viable option at all.

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Richardson > Brown easy
Unless fans like to play players based on college, which wouldn't surprise me since Chiefs fans also prefer the good guy character over talent.

Its amazing how many experts we have here.

milkman · 07-08-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp

Its amazing how many experts we have here.

JFC.

None of us are ****ing experts, but that doesn't mean that we can't see some things.

This is a place for us to express opinions.

Some are right, some are wrong.

You people that get butt hurt by our opinions need to take Mizzou dick out of your asses.

Chief Faithful · 07-08-2009, 04:01 PM

No matter who is at RT they are going to be better than last year just because Goff is replacing the worst RG that has ever put on a Chiefs uniform.

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07-08-2009, 09:14 AM	#34
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1645266	I guess I just don't understand why Taylor isn't in. His big weakness is run blocking, but so is McIntosh's. And from what I've seen Taylor's pass pro is better than McIntosh's also. Posted via Mobile Device
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Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	Or...we cut McIntosh and sign ol' Wayne Gandy to be our stop gap for the year. We could probably afford it, and Gandy can play both RT & LT. I think it would be an upgrade.
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3036954	Richardson > Brown easy Unless fans like to play players based on college, which wouldn't surprise me since Chiefs fans also prefer the good guy character over talent. __________________
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Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	Wayne Gandy: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/3486 Stop gap supreme! I think he's better than who we have right now.
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