News Debris strikes Space Shuttle... - Page 6

**007** · 07-16-2009, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

Along the same lines...

http://wechoosethemoon.org/

Damn, I'm going to miss the launch.

mikey23545 · 07-16-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

Along the same lines...

http://wechoosethemoon.org/

Now that is just too friggin' cool.

Rep for you.

mikey23545 · 07-16-2009, 05:17 AM

You know...there really isn't that much for me to do at the shop today...

**Saulbadguy** · 07-16-2009, 06:59 AM

Seriously, why all the NASA hate?

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-16-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Seriously, why all the NASA hate?

I don't know about the hate, but they've had issues with this foam for yrs now even after losing 7 astronauts and a Shuttle. Seriously. They put a man on the Moon more than 40 yrs ago, and they can't solve the foam problem.

Frazod · 07-16-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I don't know about the hate, but they've had issues with this foam for yrs now even after losing 7 astronauts and a Shuttle. Seriously. They put a man on the Moon more than 40 yrs ago, and they can't solve the foam problem.

Apparently attaching tiles correctly is the most complex task in the history of the universe.

**Donger** · 07-16-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Apparently attaching tiles correctly is the most complex task in the history of the universe.

The tiles aren't the cause of the problem. The foam shedding is. They could make the tiles impervious to foam impact, but unfortunately, they would weigh too much.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-16-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Apparently attaching tiles correctly is the most complex task in the history of the universe.

"We can put a man on the Moon, but we can't______".

40 years later, this statement that we've all heard a million times gives me pause.
This IS indeed the great question, isn't it?

And 40 years later, with the lack of advancement in space-travel, no commercial space travel, and technology we were supposed to be enjoying right now, this question/statement gives further credence to the theory that we in fact did NOT go to the Moon.

So there.

wild1 · 07-16-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

"We can put a man on the Moon, but we can't______".

Well, some things are a lot harder than putting two boots down on the moon.

JD10367 · 07-16-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I don't know about the hate, but they've had issues with this foam for yrs now even after losing 7 astronauts and a Shuttle. Seriously. They put a man on the Moon more than 40 yrs ago, and they can't solve the foam problem.

Well, to be fair, putting a man on the moon involved a whole lot of physics and deep thought but, technologically, it wasn't exactly "Star Trek". It was a big three-stage booster and then pretty much gravity and aim. They programmed those suckers using IBM Punch Cards and the computer had less capability than your average calculator. Hell, the first computers in the Space Shuttle couldn't hold a candle to a decent late-80's Color Macintosh. Humanity is pretty ingenious about doing some amazing shit with much less technology than you'd think.

The shuttle, on the other hand, has all those plane parts. Like brakes and engines and ailerons and flaps and landing gear. The missions to the moon were "ride it there, then turn the engines on and ride it back home and plop down in a tin can with a parachute". The lunar lander itself was intricate, but even that wasn't exactly a mystery in terms of the physics involved. And once the tin can landed, it's job was done; on the other hand, having a reusable craft that can land like a plane is an amazing feat.

JD10367 · 07-16-2009, 07:46 AM

IIRC the "tile repair kit" is basically a patch plate and a molly bolt, with some glue and foam and stuff. Just enough to get them back to earth... but I'm pretty sure it can only be used on a flat-surface hole. If they get hit on the wing edge like they did with Columbia, they're f**ked.

Reiterating what's been said here: launching space vehicles isn't easy. It's complicated physics coupled with complicated machinery. Don't you think, if they had a safer, better, and more economical way to do it, they'd be doing it? In order to lug up giant payloads, they needed a bird with a big hangar, and thus they could no longer just shove stuff on the tip of a rocket where it was safe from debris.

This thread makes me wanna go watch "The Right Stuff" again...

**Donger** · 07-16-2009, 08:36 AM

BTW, Orion 15 is scheduled to land on the Moon in June 2019.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-16-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

BTW, Orion 15 is scheduled to land on the Moon in June 2019.

10 years? I thoight we'd be on Mars by then.

**Donger** · 07-16-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

10 years? I thoight we'd be on Mars by then.

It may not happen at all. The present administration is reviewing the mission now.

**007** · 07-16-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

BTW, Orion 15 is scheduled to land on the Moon in June 2019.

2019?

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It may not happen at all. The present administration is reviewing the mission now.

It figures.

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