Alternate Reality Game 3: Starting From Scratch (ROSTERS only)

[Mile High Mania]

Ok guys, I'll put a link to this in the main thread... maybe RM or someone can update the header to show this link.

I think there was interest in using a different thread to post full rosters and commentary, so that's what we can use this thread for ... no trade info or picks, just post your rosters as they are updated and any commentary that you care to provide.

Others are more than welcome to post their feedback (good, bad and ugly).

Have fun.

The MAIN DRAFTING THREAD IS --> http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=204588

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Oh, I'm and idiot.

I was expecting you to list your QB#1, so somehow I scanned over him when looking at your team.

Ah. I thought you were just making an age joke about my highly trained and experienced veteran team leader who has hoisted the Lombardi trophy and been league MVP. (I'm lobbying for votes now.)

[Chiefs=Champions]

I was expecting the bickering to start at some point lol..

Ok seeing as everyone’s explaining reasons for why their teams are the best I shall put my argument forward. This however is not just why my team is fantastically awesome but also how and why I created my team the way I did…

Firstly let me state that I like my team, yet I'm not convinced it is the best quite yet, however for entertainment purposes this epic shall assume that I do.

Gather round people and hear the story of how the greatest team ever assembled was created…

THE STORY OF THE GREATEST TEAM EVER CREATED

THE FORT WAYNE DANCERS

The team that is assembled follows a pretty basic concept and throughout this drafting process I have tried to stay true to these principals or principal. One word VALUE my team follows a strict value chart of which I believe in and every pick I have made follows this chart. For instance it is my belief that the most important player on any team is the QB position and so I set about to select who I considered the best in the league. Next I set about creating a great defense. Defenses win championships people! And a good 4-3 defense can be dominant. To build a great defense and a 4-3 defense at that I believe you must start from the ground and as a result I chose the focus of my defense to be the front four as after all pressure on the most important player on any team is vital right? From here I set about filling holes by using my value chart and draft board which has taken into account players abilities, age, numbers of other players of similar ability at the position and the value IMHO of positions.



Offense
The role of this offense is simply to compliment the defense. With a two punch running attack and a qb more than capable of leading a successful offense that takes full advantage of the turnovers and great field position that the defense gives it what more could be asked of it. Well this offense still has the ability to score quickly and from anywhere on the Field. With explosive Steve Smith and Felix Jones, a young solid offensive line and possession receivers in Jenkins and Daniels this offense has the ability to be fantastic unit.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Quarter Backs

QB – Peyton Manning

Still arguably the best QB in the league, every offense he touches turns to gold is my theory. Manning still has game and once again threw for over 4000 yards last year with a shambles of an offensive line and a horrible running game.

In my system that benefits from the huge play potential of Smith and Jones and a stellar defense Manning should put up tremendous numbers.

How might anyone pass on your defenses? Well simply look to the Manning lead passing attack of The Fort Wayne Dancers. After all when has Manning ever not been able to pass on a defense before?
_________________________________________________________________________________

Running Backs

RB – Felix Jones
RB – LenDale White

These two players are anything but sure things. They aren’t exactly backs capable of carrying the whole load, however together I think they can make beautiful music.

Felix has the big play ability to rival any back in the league right now and although in his rookie season he failed to stay healthy, when healthy he should prove to be very dangerous.

White is not much more than a power back, but with a great defense this offense shall be required to grid out defenses, which White can do superbly. Much like how he paired with Johnson last year White shall again provide that short yardage power back required to perfectly complement Jones.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Offensive Line
LT – Joe Staley
OG – Aaron Sears
OG – Mike Pollak
RT – Eric Winston

Although not complete this is a young talented line with all the potential in the world. It is immediately better than the line Peyton Manning had last year and should allow the hardest qb in the league to sack (arguably) even more time to work his magic. This is a line that can grow together and one that should provide the bases of the Fort Wayne Dancers offense for the next decade.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Receivers

TE – Owen Daniels
WR – Steve Smith
WR – Michael Jenkins
WR – Lance Moore

The receiving core of The Fort Wayne Dancers is built on potential. However the potential is quite high.

Steve Smith is an awesome target and one of the best deep threats in the NFL. He is tough, physical, fast, shifty and incredibly productive. Teaming up with a true franchise QB and the best in the league at that, Smith has the chance to go from scary to horrifying.

Jenkins and Daniels are no slouches either and provide great potential for Manning as possession receivers.

Jenkins is a big target and is also rather athletic. Despite taking awhile to develop, the drafting of true qb for the Falcons saw his production increase nicely. Still with room to grow and an even better Qb who has a habit of bringing out the best in all his receivers The Dancers fully expect a great season out of him.

Daniels is also very productive and should provide the safety net for Peyton Manning as Dallas Clark does. Although not at athletic as Clark, Daniels plays the true TE position exceptionally well which is shown by his great production (over 700 yards the last two seasons).

_________________________________________________________________________________

Defense

This defense is a monster unit, with playmakers at every level and quality throughout it has the potential to carry this team. With an outstanding D line which rivals the Bradenton Super-Manatees in greatness and a secondary which can play man on man as well as any tandem in the league this team has tremendous ability to stop the pass. Furthermore it is going to be incredibly hard to run on. With two ginourmous baby eating DTs and linebackers that thrive in run support, this team’s defense shall be dancing on the graves of RBs and QBs alike when the season begins.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Defensive Backs

CB – Marcus Trufant
CB – Nate Clements
FS – Oshiomogho Atogwe

These guys are a pretty terrifying tandem although not the best tandem in the CPFL league they are most definitely up there. Both are fantastic in man to man coverage and both also excel in run support. Despite getting up there in years I do not think their best is behind them yet and this next year they shall be as productive as always. They now also benefit from a fantastic defensive line and as we all know a good dline makes a secondary that much better…

Oshiomogho Atogwe is an awesome talent as is a ball hawking safety in the Ed Reed mould. He is incredibly productive and is as effective against the run as he is the pass. Providing 5 forced fumbles last year he will make receivers think twice before going over the middle.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Defensive Line

DE – Patrick Kerney
DT – Albert Haynesworth
DT – Marcus Stroud
DE – Justin Tuck

When I set about to build a great defense (as after all defenses win championships) I knew d line had to be my main strength. Going against the grain and to hopefully take advantage of future drafts I decided to build a 4-3 scheme.

This unit is exactly what I envisioned and proves to be both etremly effective against the run and the pass.

Albert Haynesworth is a fantastic talent and despite moving to Washington his production IMO should not falter. He is a monster against the run at over 340 pounds and also outstanding against the run amassing 8 sacks last season. Albert is simply un-blockable.

Justin Tuck is another incredible talent. Able to play inside or outside he is incredibly strong and quite fast. As a result he plays the run as well as a he plays the pass (very good).

Marcus Stroud is getting up there in years yet he continues to dominate. His move to buffalo saw his production slip slightly last year but playing with little other help on the Bills line was the main reason for this. In fact last year he was considered to be the glue behind that defense and still had a very good year. Playing with Haynesworth, Kerney and Tuck he no longer will be the main focus of an offense and should benefit.

Patrick Kerney like Stroud is getting up there in years yet despite this his production has not wavered. Although some may point to last year as the beginning of the end for Kerney I disagree. Despite only playing 7 games last year he still managed 5 sacks and 20 tackles, which shows he is definitely not done yet.
_________________________________________________________________________________

Linebackers

DE/OLB – Vernon Gholston
ROLB – Lance Briggs
MLB – David Harris
LOLB/MLB – E.J. Henderson

Despite this unit not being as good as Chiefscafan’s linebackers (after all who could run on them? Who? WHO? WHO I ASK YOU!??!) this is a very solid unit which is pretty young (apart from Briggs). These guys are all playmakers and are exceptional against the run and thrive in coverage.

Briggs. What can I say about this cat? He does it all and thrives on cover two defense playing the weakside. Briggs simply makes plays and is a leader on that Bears defense. Not many linebackers would be able to successfully challenge Brian Urlacher to a ‘who’s the best linebacker on the team competition’, yet Briggs has and many would argue that Briggs is indeed the better player. This is a credit to how fantastic a player he is and IMHO he is slightly underrated. In the Dancers defense Briggs will play weakside and will be able to use all his playmaking abilities in space. Briggs also figures to be a leader on this defense and an awesome one at that.

Harris and Henderson are somewhat similar. They both play middle in their own systems and are both exceptional against the run and have a lot of playmaking ability especially rushing the passer. One will slide to the left side however yet this should be no problem. They are both also exceptional in pass coverage and more than able to hold their own against the TE.

Gholston has been labeled a bust by some however I think if anyone can get production out of him, its Coach Ryan. He provides great depth at DE and also should slide into the elephant linebacker role on some downs.
_________________________________________________________________________________


Ok so that’s my team so far and my argument for why my team is totally kick ass! Perhaps I went over the top there, but I have no life, so yer…

I welcome rebuttals!

[KcKing]

The Mud Ducks!!!

QB - Donovan McNabb
RB - Marion Barber
FB - (We ain't runnin no damn fullback...)
WR - Reggie Wayne l Lee Evans l Anthony Gonzalez
TE -
LT - Tony Ugoh
LG -
C - Ben Claxton
RG - Stephen Neal
RT - Nick Kaczur

LE - Robert Mathis
UT -
NT - Tony Brown
RE - Will Smith (NO)
SLB -
MLB - Bradie James
WLB - Freddy Keiaho
CB - Asante Samuel l Antoine Carson
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Chris Horton

Roster's a little thinner than others... But I have 4 picks in the first round of the Rookie Draft... (2,6,16,18) It's shaping up nicely...

[Mile High Mania]

Dancers... I love the production value in the delivery!

[jwazzie]

And Now My Team. Not flashy, but solid is a good word. I did get a quote on my team from a very well spoken former coach.

"This team is like when you have a two women and one has a nice rack and nothing else, and the other has equal parts on her body. You go with the equal part woman."
- Herm Edwards on the St. Louis Commodes Team Roster.

ALT. DRAFT:

OFFENSE

QB: Jake Delhomme
RB: Matt Forte, Justin Fargas
WR: Andre Johnson, Chad Ocho Cinco,
Devery Henderson
TE: Tony Gonzalez
OL: Walter Jones, Brian Waters, Nick Mangold,
Eugene Amano, Sean Locklear

DEFENSE

DL: Kyle Vanden Bosch, Barry Cofield, Bertrand Berry
LB: Brian Urlacher, Larry Foote, Eric Barton, ?
DB: Ronde Barber, Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark,
Yeremiah Bell

[Mile High Mania]

jwazzie - very solid all around team. Like you said, nothing flashy, but that doesn't matter... Jake is very capable and I like your WR/TE/RBs. Defensively, you have quite a bit of age, but that's not a bad thing.

Hell, it probably helps you when the masses vote... most won't recognize many of the 2-3 year players, or care to investigate them much.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I have a complete team I have the best kr now in the game arguablly one of the best kickers in the league. Everyone questions me trading for cassel but what if he is great. By the end of this it's gonna be hard to find a weakness.

Cribbs and Bironas.

Cribbs has gone from the #33 KR in 2006, to #3 in 2007 and #12 in 2008. Not real consistent, but I like his upside.

Norwood wasn't much of a factor his rookie year, 2006... but he was #8 in 2007 and #5 in 2008. I think he's trending in the right direction, add in his rushing/receiving/TDs from the offense and BOOM! "Winner winner chicken dinner."

Bironas - money and on an offense that is very Kicker friendly. Bironas and Crosby were 1 and 2 in 2007, Bironas fell to 8 while Crosby fell to 12 in 2008. Packers aren't as "content" with FGs as the Titans, but Bironas gets the nod there.

Both of our K's are top 3-4 material...

Just kicking more dirt into the air ...

[Mile High Mania]

Crap

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Updated with my new space eater on the DL.

Crested Butte-Holes (27)

QB
Matt Schaub, QB (28)
Trent Edwards, QB (25)
WR/TE
Anquan Boldin, WR (28)
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR (31)
Roy Williams, WR (27)
Greg Olsen, TE (24)
RB
Peyton Hillis, FB (23)
Brandon Jacobs, RB (27)
Kevin Smith, RB (22)
*(also includes Norwood, listed primarily as the KR)
OL
Marcus McNeil, LT (25)
Robert Gallery, LG (28)
Olin Kreutz, C (32)
Chris Kuper, RG (26)
ST
Mason Crosby, K (24)
Jerious Norwood*, KR/RB (25)


DL
Julius Peppers, DE/OLB (29)
Ray Edwards, LDE (24)
Kevin Williams, DT (28)
Tommy Harris, DT (28)
Darryl Tapp, RDE (24)
LB
Kirk Morrison, ILB (27)
Zach Diles, OLB/SLB (24)
Curtis Lofton, MLB (23)
DB
Richard Marshall, CB (24)
Charles Tillman, CB (28)
Gibril Wilson, S (27)
Roman Harper, S (26)

Too bad your space-eater DL was drafted by Rain Man a LONG time ago...

[The Franchise]

[Mile High Mania]

I just typed the wrong last name... sorry.

Updated with my new space eater on the DL.

Crested Butte-Holes (27)

QB
Matt Schaub, QB (28)
Trent Edwards, QB (25)
WR/TE
Anquan Boldin, WR (28)
TJ Houshmandzadeh, WR (31)
Roy Williams, WR (27)
Greg Olsen, TE (24)
RB
Peyton Hillis, FB (23)
Brandon Jacobs, RB (27)
Kevin Smith, RB (22)
*(also includes Norwood, listed primarily as the KR)
OL
Marcus McNeil, LT (25)
Robert Gallery, LG (28)
Olin Kreutz, C (32)
Chris Kuper, RG (26)
ST
Mason Crosby, K (24)
Jerious Norwood*, KR/RB (25)


DL
Julius Peppers, DE/OLB (29)
Ray Edwards, LDE (24)
Kevin Williams, DT (28)
Tommy Kelly, DT (28)
Darryl Tapp, RDE (24)
LB
Kirk Morrison, ILB (27)
Zach Diles, OLB/SLB (24)
Curtis Lofton, MLB (23)
DB
Richard Marshall, CB (24)
Charles Tillman, CB (28)
Gibril Wilson, S (27)
Roman Harper, S (26)

[Mile High Mania]

Seriously... it's incredibly unfair to the rest of you that I'm allowed to draft in this league. I just want you guys to know that battling it out for 2nd place is still a fun thing... enjoy it, make the most of it.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Seriously... it's incredibly unfair to the rest of you that I'm allowed to draft in this league. I just want you guys to know that battling it out for 2nd place is still a fun thing... enjoy it, make the most of it.

You're completely out of your mind.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Seriously... it's incredibly unfair to the rest of you that I'm allowed to draft in this league. I just want you guys to know that battling it out for 2nd place is still a fun thing... enjoy it, make the most of it.

My big challenge is drafting now to account for the fact that I'm going to have the last pick in the draft every year from here on out. It's going to be hard.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

My big challenge is drafting now to account for the fact that I'm going to have the last pick in the draft every year from here on out. It's going to be hard.

That's great...